Which one faster Mustang or camaro
05-16-2005, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveHisBird
My buddy has a 1998 Cobra 5-spd with a .20 overbore and JE pistons, fully rebuilt engine w/ 5k on the rebuild. I have a bone-*** stock 1998 LS-1 Trans Am with a 4L60E automatic and 79K on the clock. When we raced, his best run had been a 14.6 'til he raced me. It was 3 in the morning, I'd just shown up still in my work clothes and pulled a 14.07 w/ a .6 light on the Pro Tree outta my *** with no warmup. (it was his 4th run that night). I guess my F-body lit a fire under his *** and he pulled a 14.02 w/ a .4 light. before the rebuild, I'd have spanked him. As it is, I believe I have a legitimate chance to blow his doors off if I can just get enough time off work to get more than 1 run per night.
05-16-2005, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
The pre 99 models are WEAK. If he is bored over with a fully rebuilt engine he should still be running better than 14.02. Stock 99 GT could pull that with a good driver. Do you know if he swapped the 99+ heads into his car?
, but I don't get much chance to practice.) Then again, he totalled his first car, a 12-sec Fox-bod less than 24 hrs afte rbuying it, wrapped his probe, parked his 1995 GT vert in the backseat of another car and totalled a 1988 Blazer (yes, apparently that IS possible). He's not the best driver (duh) but he CAN launch that Cobra, I'll give him that. 
05-16-2005, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveHisBird
Nope. He was just compensating for spun bearings fromn last year and the guy had some oversized JE's sitting around. That's all he threw into it. (And yes I know, I should be ashamed of a 14.07 , but I don't get much chance to practice.) Then again, he totalled his first car, a 12-sec Fox-bod less than 24 hrs afte rbuying it, wrapped his probe, parked his 1995 GT vert in the backseat of another car and totalled a 1988 Blazer (yes, apparently that IS possible). He's not the best driver (duh) but he CAN launch that Cobra, I'll give him that.
, but I don't get much chance to practice.) Then again, he totalled his first car, a 12-sec Fox-bod less than 24 hrs afte rbuying it, wrapped his probe, parked his 1995 GT vert in the backseat of another car and totalled a 1988 Blazer (yes, apparently that IS possible). He's not the best driver (duh) but he CAN launch that Cobra, I'll give him that. He's already wrecked FOUR cars!?
people like that should not be allowed to drive...
05-16-2005, 02:16 PM
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From my experience.......
Bone stock GT Mustang vs bone stock LS1. LS1 will always win.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Now keep in mind if your building a Mustang from block up throw all this out the window. Then it just boils down to who can build a better motor.
Bone stock GT Mustang vs bone stock LS1. LS1 will always win.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Now keep in mind if your building a Mustang from block up throw all this out the window. Then it just boils down to who can build a better motor.
05-16-2005, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 240M3SRT
From my experience.......
Bone stock GT Mustang vs bone stock LS1. LS1 will always win.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Now keep in mind if your building a Mustang from block up throw all this out the window. Then it just boils down to who can build a better motor.
Bone stock GT Mustang vs bone stock LS1. LS1 will always win.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Now keep in mind if your building a Mustang from block up throw all this out the window. Then it just boils down to who can build a better motor.
05-16-2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tirefryer
I just spanked a SRT4 on Friday night he was dialing 13.94. It wasn't even close.
an SRT guy.BTW: The only SRT-4 (cough*neon*cough) I've seen at thet rack ran a best of ~14.7.
05-16-2005, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE: The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc. Now keep in mind if your building a Mustang from block up throw all this out the window. Then it just boils down to who can build a better motor.
I think he means his car is far from stock, but still has the stock turbo. Also, if he's talking about a 4.6l GT, then no matter how you build the block it will never compare to a built LS1. I don't care how you build the motor. I don't think you could squeek more than 320 rwhp MAX from a built 2 valve 4.6.
I think he means his car is far from stock, but still has the stock turbo. Also, if he's talking about a 4.6l GT, then no matter how you build the block it will never compare to a built LS1. I don't care how you build the motor. I don't think you could squeek more than 320 rwhp MAX from a built 2 valve 4.6.
05-16-2005, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Redneck Z
LS1's have 3.42 vs. the 3.55's in the mach, but because of our trannies, our stock gearing is equivalent to 4.10's in a mustang.
05-16-2005, 05:35 PM
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Welcome to the boards! This thread will probably get moved because it has nothing to do with external engine. I would put money on the Camaro. The factory horsepower ratings are known to be understated on these cars. That 305 hp number is probably close to what it is putting out at the rear wheels. I don't know if that is the same for the Cobra, but I would guess Ford also states their HP numbers at the crank. Plus, this is an LS1 board...and the LS1 rulz mad tight yo.
I'm sure others will chip in.
Again welcome.
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I'm sure others will chip in.
Again welcome.
Ed
Actually your in the wrong forum...This is "New ls1 owners & Enthusiasts"..
To the original post...The Ls1 > any Cobra before '03 (stock 4 stock)
Bone stock GT Mustang vs bone stock LS1. LS1 will always win.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Basic bolt on GT Mustang vs Basic bolt on LS1. LS1 will still win.
Highly modded GT Mustang vs Highly modded LS1. The competition starts to get a lot closer but the LS1 will still prevail.
The only mustang that ever beat my stock turbo 12 sec SRT-4 was a S/C cobra, and i raced a lot of Mustangs, nitrous, etc.
Roflmao...You do not run 12's
And as long as the modding is equal between a GT and an Ls1..The ls1 will dominate..The competition won't get closer.
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05-16-2005, 05:53 PM
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uhh guys...i thought the camaro would beat a stang off the launch...mach 1 included...the 4.6 OHC engines make more power as they get higher in the rpms....the ls1s dont make as much. my SS is a torque monster down low, but my friends mach 1 hangs with me uptop...also its not all about HP. "horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races"-Carrol Shelby. look at the torque ratings of a 305 hp ls1 to a 305 hp 4.6 DOHC. the 4.9 only has like 300 lbs of torque...the ls1...340. my friend with the mach 1 and i have run the G-Tech meter (which we've found to be accurate) and my car outta the hole kicks his ***. 60-100 he gives me a run for my money if i got a bad start. but saying 4.6 DOHCs do better outta the hole is retarded. OHV setups (like the ls1, lt1 and 5.0) run better down low and get you outta the hole better, but OHC engines (4.6 2v and 4v) run better in high rpms.
05-16-2005, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE:uhh guys...i thought the camaro would beat a stang off the launch...mach 1 included...the 4.6 OHC engines make more power as they get higher in the rpms....the ls1s dont make as much. my SS is a torque monster down low, but my friends mach 1 hangs with me uptop...also its not all about HP. "horsepower sells cars, but torque wins races"-Carrol Shelby. look at the torque ratings of a 305 hp ls1 to a 305 hp 4.6 DOHC. the 4.9 only has like 300 lbs of torque...the ls1...340. my friend with the mach 1 and i have run the G-Tech meter (which we've found to be accurate) and my car outta the hole kicks his ***. 60-100 he gives me a run for my money if i got a bad start. but saying 4.6 DOHCs do better outta the hole is retarded. OHV setups (like the ls1, lt1 and 5.0) run better down low and get you outta the hole better, but OHC engines (4.6 2v and 4v) run better in high rpms.
I had a 4.6 for several years before I bought my LS1. Trust me, most of what you said is just not true. The 4 valve's have a good upper end. The 2 valve does not breath better up top than an LS1. I had a head and cam 4.6 and I could hold my friends Z28 off for the first two gears, then he would blow by me like I was standing still. In a GT you have to get the LS1 out of the hole, and just try and hold them off for as long as you can. In a GT you would not do good against an LS1 from 60-100 mph.
I had a 4.6 for several years before I bought my LS1. Trust me, most of what you said is just not true.
The 4 valve's have a good upper end. The 2 valve does not breath better up top than an LS1. I had a head and cam 4.6 and I could hold my friends Z28 off for the first two gears, then he would blow by me like I was standing still. In a GT you have to get the LS1 out of the hole, and just try and hold them off for as long as you can. In a GT you would not do good against an LS1 from 60-100 mph.
05-16-2005, 06:24 PM
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so in this one thread...
a race based on factory hp ratings in external engine section
we have a stock 12 second srt-4.
a torque monster ls1 that runs like a lt1 or 5.0
and an accurate gtech pro.
well...my cousin ernie raise's rabbits!
this is ****** silly
a race based on factory hp ratings in external engine section
we have a stock 12 second srt-4.
a torque monster ls1 that runs like a lt1 or 5.0
and an accurate gtech pro.
well...my cousin ernie raise's rabbits!
this is ****** silly
05-16-2005, 07:08 PM
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My buddy had a 1997 (I think) Cobra in that neat greenish color. He had headers, exhaust, gears (only 3.73 tho) and intake. I never raced him, but after taking a ride in my light bolt-on (at the time) Z28, he traded it in for a 03 Cobra. Take it for what it's worth...