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Old 04-06-2006, 01:27 PM
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If you're going to keep it stock besides exhaust, get the Mach 1. I drove one before I bought my GT and they awesome cars to cruise in. They are definitly quick too, but like said before they don't respond to mods as well as the LS1 and the mods are more expensive.
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my friend traded in a 02 Z with lots of mods and very little miles for an 04 or 05 (the last year they made them) mach 1. He put a supercharger on it and drives like a grandpa. I like the interior of the mach more than the T/A. Yet, I really like the LS1 engine b/c it responds to mods so well. I think he keeps saying that he wished he didnt trade in his LS1, but I think he plans on buying another Z in the future and making it a DD and having the mach as a race car.

I think one of the reasons he misses his LS1 is b/c it was an M6 and the mach is an auto. His car is very quick but he barely drives it b/c he is afraid it cant handle the power and he cant afford to have anything break on him right now. Yet, I did test drive a manual stock m1 last year or the year before and it was pretty decent in power. I was impressed with it. It wasnt as quick as my Z, nor a GTO (yet I have only driven LS2 based GTO's).

I dont think you will go wrong with which ever you choose. They are both good cars and can be modded pretty easily. I like the m1 though b/c it is very rare, I have seen only 2 here in Dallas. I know there are more than that, but that is all I have seen in the past year actually. While, I can see 2 T/A's following each other on any given day.

Its all just personal preference and good luck with your choice.
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I love them both. If they were the same price around ehre I would have given the Mach 1 a much closer look, but in Miami I can't even find a Mustang GT as cheap as the Trans Am I got (my bros looking to buy a GT soon, and he can't find anything good under 12,000. I got mine with 50k for 9,000.)

If you can get the M1 cheaper than the TA, then do it. Hell, even if it's a thousand more I'd get it because the T56 will cost you a $2,000 rear end and the M1 won't. No bias here, I love both.
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Originally Posted by Lucian
my friend traded in a 02 Z with lots of mods and very little miles for an 04 or 05 (the last year they made them) mach 1.
Mach 1's were made in '03 and '04 on the SN-95 platform. In '05, the platform changed to S197 and didn't feature a Mach 1.
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Originally Posted by then00b
They are basically the same engine, except the Cobra engine is absolutely bulletproof and good up and beyond the 1000HP mark. The Mach1 engine, I believe, doesn't have forged internals like the N/A Cobra's, which explains why the N/A Cobras can rev to 6500RPM and the Mach redlines at 6000....

uh...mach's hit rev limiter at 7200...or 73 im not sure. they redline at 65, not 6k . the 03 mach is an 01 cobra with a solid rear. and stock vs stock its neck in neck to machwongirl or whoever posted it. a majority of the time the fbod will win at least thats been my experience with stock mach's. my friend has one with a C&L elbow and cold air and an o/r H pipe and if he doesnt drive perfect he wont beat any of the local ls1's who are stock, but he's also running the stock gatorbacks. its not an ALWAYS thing
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mach1s a waste. if your gonna get a stang get an 03-04 cobra or get the TA
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Originally Posted by evrae205
mach1s a waste. if your gonna get a stang get an 03-04 cobra or get the TA

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Originally Posted by Swang
uh...mach's hit rev limiter at 7200...or 73 im not sure. they redline at 65, not 6k . the 03 mach is an 01 cobra with a solid rear. and stock vs stock its neck in neck to machwongirl or whoever posted it. a majority of the time the fbod will win at least thats been my experience with stock mach's. my friend has one with a C&L elbow and cold air and an o/r H pipe and if he doesnt drive perfect he wont beat any of the local ls1's who are stock, but he's also running the stock gatorbacks. its not an ALWAYS thing
the 03 mach has an aluminum block the 01 cobra has an iron block.
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Originally Posted by novi2000
the 03 mach has an aluminum block the 01 cobra has an iron block.
'01 Cobra has an aluminum block, only '03/'04 Cobras got the iron block.

The Mach motor is NOT the '01 Cobra motor.
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
'01 Cobra has an aluminum block, only '03/'04 Cobras got the iron block.

The Mach motor is NOT the '01 Cobra motor.

It isn't the same, it is just similar.
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The Mach has the aluminum (same as aviator I believe) block, and '03-'04 cobra heads with it's own unique intake manifold. Internals are powdered metal rods identical to the GT and hyper pistons which may be GT pieces but probably have a different dish. The rest of the drivetrain (transmission, driveshaft, axle) is straight from the GT.
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I've changed my mind, I say you skip the Mach1 and go with the S281 Saleen Mustang.
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Originally Posted by Ell Ess Won
I've changed my mind, I say you skip the Mach1 and go with the S281 Saleen Mustang.

That's just an overpriced GT with a body kit. The mach is kind of like a better and improved 01 cobra and has the same or similar motor as the aviator. If you have alot of money to spend, then get the 03-04 cobra and buy all the fancy, expensive upgrades for it.
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Meh. If you are going to stay stock, or just basic bolt-ons, the Mach will provide almost the same performance and hold its value better. Having said that, I would still pick the WS6 in a heartbeat. The Mach looks too chunky, is a pain in the *** to work on and I'm not a big fan of the interior. If you have to get an automatic, the WS6 is definitely the only choice. this is coming from a guy who's owned two 5.0s, so don't think I'm biased.
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Originally Posted by Benjamin Russick
Meh. If you are going to stay stock, or just basic bolt-ons, the Mach will provide almost the same performance and hold its value better. Having said that, I would still pick the WS6 in a heartbeat. The Mach looks too chunky, is a pain in the *** to work on and I'm not a big fan of the interior. If you have to get an automatic, the WS6 is definitely the only choice. this is coming from a guy who's owned two 5.0s, so don't think I'm biased.
Well the mach 1 is waayyyy better the the 5.0, I've owned 4 five-ohs, and unless they're fully modded, they're not very impressive. But I agree if it's gonna be an automatic go with the pontiac cuz fords auto tranny suxx! And no the mach doesn't look too chunky lol
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Originally Posted by MachWonGirl
That's just an overpriced GT with a body kit. The mach is kind of like a better and improved 01 cobra and has the same or similar motor as the aviator. If you have alot of money to spend, then get the 03-04 cobra and buy all the fancy, expensive upgrades for it.
The saleen s281 is an overpriced gt with a bodykit? i dunno about the 05-06 gts, but the previous ones were supercharged so unless I missed something I dont think the gt's were ever supercharged. Now if your talking a rousch stage I or II then I can see that but not a saleen.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
The saleen s281 is an overpriced gt with a bodykit? i dunno about the 05-06 gts, but the previous ones were supercharged so unless I missed something I dont think the gt's were ever supercharged. Now if your talking a rousch stage I or II then I can see that but not a saleen.
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well they are still the same 2v engine as the gt, stock internals , with a small eaton charger. and a body kit and wheels. not worth the extra 10-20k for the salleen. lol
roush stage 2 or stage 3s they had the same option a small eaton charger.
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Originally Posted by novi2000
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well they are still the same 2v engine as the gt, stock internals , with a small eaton charger. and a body kit and wheels. not worth the extra 10-20k for the salleen. lol
roush stage 2 or stage 3s they had the same option a small eaton charger.

Keep in mind the people that buy specialty Mustangs like that aren't doing it just for the performace aspect... it is almost like a status symbol kind of thing...
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Both the LS1 Trans Am and the 03-04 Mustang Mach 1's are damn nice cars. They are close in terms of power as well, both dyno around 300WHP in stock form. The T/A has the advantage of a 6-speed and better results from bolt-ons, but otherwise either car would make an excellent purchase
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Both the LS1 Trans Am and the 03-04 Mustang Mach 1's are damn nice cars. They are close in terms of power as well, both dyno around 300WHP in stock form. The T/A has the advantage of a 6-speed and better results from bolt-ons, but otherwise either car would make an excellent purchase
I don't think a Mach dynoed 300 at the wheels.... Last I heard it was more like 260....



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