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Old 05-31-2006, 01:01 PM
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I can see already this is going to become a "TA is better than Camaro" pissing contest so you boys have fun measuring your PP's.
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there are two f-bodys at the pontiac dealership by me, both are 02 cars with slp options i believe, both are red extremely low mileage fully loaded cars, i;m talking less than 500 miles between them, the yare both 31,000. one is an SS the other is a WS6, so i guess in different areas the cars have different values.
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My T/A (not WS6) was 29k+ new. I could have gotten a Z-28 new for about 22 or 23k. That's about a 7k difference. I don't see the confusion.
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Wait a minute, you're comparing a T/A to an SS. Should be pretty close in that case.
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I noticed that too when I was shopping around for a trans am with the WS6 package a few years ago. The regular T/A's were priced about the same as the SS's with the ramair T/A's being a few thousand more. That's why I ended up getting an SS, and I don't regret it at all.

In general, pontiacs seem to be priced a little more than the chevys for similar models (pursuit vs. cobolt, sunfire vs cavalier, t/a vs camaro.....). I thing it's an image thing with pontiac being percieved as GM's "performance" division.
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Originally Posted by 2000blkss
I think it's an image thing with pontiac being percieved as GM's "performance" division.
Pontiac has the Corvette?
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pontiacs are usually a little better appointed. usually have a better interior, maybe better door speakers and "dressier" doors and a "dressier" grille. is that worth another 3k? that's up to you to decide. for me it was. i'm not a big camaro fan, but to each his own. if it were up to me, the firebird would be the only car i'd buy for my entire life. i hope they come back with them before my LS1 craps out
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Originally Posted by Predator
My T/A (not WS6) was 29k+ new. I could have gotten a Z-28 new for about 22 or 23k. That's about a 7k difference. I don't see the confusion.
My car is a regular Z28 not an SS and it was stickered at 28,300. Below is a partial scan of my sticker (scanner too small to get the whole thing). I think the numbers and prices that are being batted around are off in some cases. Oh and my car is a stick. Didn't the dealer charge an extra 700 or 1000 for an Auto? hmmm...29,300?

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In the words of a friend of mine when I used to have my T/A. "Pontiacs have always been the prettier cars while Chevys were the brutes.
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Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369
pontiacs are usually a little better appointed. usually have a better interior, maybe better door speakers and "dressier" doors and a "dressier" grille. is that worth another 3k? that's up to you to decide. for me it was. i'm not a big camaro fan, but to each his own. if it were up to me, the firebird would be the only car i'd buy for my entire life. i hope they come back with them before my LS1 craps out
Now that I agree with. All about your personal taste! Amen brother
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Originally Posted by Mike02Z
Oh and my car is a stick. Didn't the dealer charge an extra 700 or 1000 for an Auto? hmmm...29,300?
I don't remember if they charged extra for the auto, have to look at my old invoice. It was pretty much a no cost option if I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by Roarin_8
I don't remember if they charged extra for the auto, have to look at my old invoice. It was pretty much a no cost option if I remember correctly.
The 6 speeds were standard on 4th gens and the auto was extra.

Edit- The GTO is the opposite. The auto is standard and the 6 speed is extra.

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TA's cost more than a Z28 when new,

new $22K would buy you a Z28 with t-tops
$27,500 was the starting price for a TA.

You could get a SS for just over $26 with t-tops.

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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
The 6 speeds were standard on 4th gens and the auto was extra.

Edit- The GTO is the opposite. The auto is standard and the 6 speed is extra.
Here is a window sticker for an auto 30th anniversary Trans Am. Gears were an additional cost but I don't see them charging the customer for an auto.

http://home.comcast.net/~cjbosque/Co...c19Window.html
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That's weird everyone and their dog has a Trans am or Ws6 around here. I hardly ever see Z28's or SS's. I would take a good looking SS over a Trans Am anyday.
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Actually there is a 2001 WS6 trans am with 40k miles going for 18,900 and there is a 2001 SS down the street with 37k going for 19,500. Maybe the SS is worth more because it's a manual, and the WS6 is an auto.
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
That's weird everyone and their dog has a Trans am or Ws6 around here. I hardly ever see Z28's or SS's. I would take a good looking SS over a Trans Am anyday.
Same here. That is why I questioned the 10's of thousands remark. Maybe there were that many more Camaro's and maybe more of them got wrapped around trees because they were cheaper than the T/A but around me you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a T/A and usually one with the WS6 hood yet I see very few Z28's and SS's. Heck, in 02 didn't they make almost as many SS's as Z28's?

The Pontiac is always going to sell more than it's sister Chevrolet. Most times the Pontiac has a few more standard features and is an upgrade to the sister Chevrolet which justifies the price increase but I still hold that a T/A with the same equipment as a Z28 will not be 7k higher on the sticker. Someone show me and if I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.

EDIT: What I would really like to see is a TA with the same equipment as my Z28 has. I am really curious to see how much more the TA is. I think the only options avilable for my Z28 that I didn't have was the CD changer and the Automatic.

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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
That's weird everyone and their dog has a Trans am or Ws6 around here. I hardly ever see Z28's or SS's. I would take a good looking SS over a Trans Am anyday.
That's just because your eyes are drawn to the Trans Am going down the road, that's why you don't see more Camaros.
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
That's just because your eyes are drawn to the Trans Am going down the road, that's why you don't see more Camaros.
He's probably right. Hard to miss that snorting front end.
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Originally Posted by Mike02Z
Same here. That is why I questioned the 10's of thousands remark. Maybe there were that many more Camaro's and maybe more of them got wrapped around trees because they were cheaper than the T/A but around me you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a T/A and usually one with the WS6 hood yet I see very few Z28's and SS's. Heck, in 02 didn't they make almost as many SS's as Z28's?

The Pontiac is always going to sell more than it's sister Chevrolet. Most times the Pontiac has a few more standard features and is an upgrade to the sister Chevrolet which justifies the price increase but I still hold that a T/A with the same equipment as a Z28 will not be 7k higher on the sticker. Someone show me and if I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it.
I'm with this guy. Pontiac is considered the more "luxurious" brand, if your into that sort of thing. It goes back to the old GM hierarchy of Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, Cadillac, or something like that. It's a sales tool.

There must be some kind of WS6 shortage in Canada if there is that much of a price premium. Buy the car you want, search for a price your willing to pay, period.

P.S. Most Camaro/Firebird guys like both cars, I know I do. I've owned both from different generations. It's cool if you prefer one or the other, everyone probably does in at least some years, but don't get too excited about it. Camaro vs Firebird, taken seriously, is a big time "white trash" argument.



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