Breaking loose at top of first gear
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Breaking loose at top of first gear
this has happened to me twice so far. i run the car all the way up to the red line in first and the tires start to break free. is this right or am i imagining things.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Oh yes, that does happen with LS1s even stock, if you are on questionable tires.
My WS6 would do that on the stock Eagle F1 GS tires once they had about 5K miles on them. Punch it from a ~25mph roll, it'd downshift to 1st, get good traction, then as it came up to 5000rpm the tires would start to spin and cause it to short shift. Drove me nuts, because the short shifting would kill my shift extension for the next gear and dump me at way too low of an RPM.
Only thing I needed to fix the issue was some better tires.
My WS6 would do that on the stock Eagle F1 GS tires once they had about 5K miles on them. Punch it from a ~25mph roll, it'd downshift to 1st, get good traction, then as it came up to 5000rpm the tires would start to spin and cause it to short shift. Drove me nuts, because the short shifting would kill my shift extension for the next gear and dump me at way too low of an RPM.
Only thing I needed to fix the issue was some better tires.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Originally Posted by RacerScott
doesnt happen to me on BFG g-force kdw's
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haha, my tires start to break loose in 2nd gear around 3500rpms. In first gear it's a joke to think about going wot at any rpm even with 315/25/17's. However, I do have Sumitumo's.
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my Trans Am has never done this actually, always right off the line. It does it in the rain thats about it. When my tires are bald it will wheel hop however... really sucks. Now i have Mickey T's and no traction issues.
On my camaro, cam only 1st is pointless. Half throttle will break the POS tires loose in 1st and 2nd. In 2nd and third however @ WOT it will do like you are saying and spin the tires @ a higher RPM if i do get traction to begin with
I think the reason for this is 1 tread, and 2 tire size. I have a 25-26" tire on my camaro but i need a 28x10.5 and my trans am is now @ around 28 1/4" tire
On my camaro, cam only 1st is pointless. Half throttle will break the POS tires loose in 1st and 2nd. In 2nd and third however @ WOT it will do like you are saying and spin the tires @ a higher RPM if i do get traction to begin with
I think the reason for this is 1 tread, and 2 tire size. I have a 25-26" tire on my camaro but i need a 28x10.5 and my trans am is now @ around 28 1/4" tire
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Originally Posted by 02WS6Bird
my Trans Am has never done this actually, always right off the line. It does it in the rain thats about it. When my tires are bald it will wheel hop however... really sucks. Now i have Mickey T's and no traction issues.
On my camaro, cam only 1st is pointless. Half throttle will break the POS tires loose in 1st and 2nd. In 2nd and third however @ WOT it will do like you are saying and spin the tires @ a higher RPM if i do get traction to begin with
I think the reason for this is 1 tread, and 2 tire size. I have a 25-26" tire on my camaro but i need a 28x10.5 and my trans am is now @ around 28 1/4" tire
On my camaro, cam only 1st is pointless. Half throttle will break the POS tires loose in 1st and 2nd. In 2nd and third however @ WOT it will do like you are saying and spin the tires @ a higher RPM if i do get traction to begin with
I think the reason for this is 1 tread, and 2 tire size. I have a 25-26" tire on my camaro but i need a 28x10.5 and my trans am is now @ around 28 1/4" tire
Your car had ungodly wheel hop. I thought I was in a Cobra. FWIW, my car would break 'em lose with a lid and LS6 intake, then again it had Continental Touring tires when I bought it. They sucked. When I had cheap Defender 285's on my chrome 10-spokes, even with my stall and bolt-ons, it would stick through the whole gear. The same setup on 17" F1's was horrible in comparison.
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Originally Posted by 777
haha, my tires start to break loose in 2nd gear around 3500rpms. In first gear it's a joke to think about going wot at any rpm even with 315/25/17's. However, I do have Sumitumo's.
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All of my friends and I had LT1 cars back in the day and I let them drive the LS1 when I brought it home....
Everyone of them took off slow and then railed on it..and everyone had to let off because at the top of first the car would start to slide out on them... LMAO... LT1 vs LS1 is a completely different experience.
Everyone of them took off slow and then railed on it..and everyone had to let off because at the top of first the car would start to slide out on them... LMAO... LT1 vs LS1 is a completely different experience.
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yeah when i first got my car after about 2 weeks of driving i decided to play a little, i did the wot all the way through first and i felt something at the top of first like tires breaking free but thought nothing of it and shifted hard to 2nd and was instantly sideways. and when i say sideways i mean sideways, like making a b line for the median, i almost **** myself.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Originally Posted by kozak
.....and shifted hard to 2nd and was instantly sideways. and when i say sideways i mean sideways, like making a b line for the median, i almost **** myself.