wow be careful this sucks
03-18-2007, 12:46 PM
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I can't read a damn thing in those pics. Too blury.
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03-18-2007, 02:15 PM
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You deserve it, and I'm glad you got caught. I hope you spend 10 grand on a lawyer, and the officer shows up to court. Owned.
The risk you put every other citizen in is enormous, and I hope you learned your lesson. I had the pleasure of receiving a 12 point Grand Auto Contest citation when I was 16. Changed my life forever. I haven't been in a street race since, haven't gotten a speeding ticket since, haven't been pulled over since. And I always thought, well I'm safe, I'm smart about it. And I thought a good friend of mine was too. Today he's in prison for Vehicular Manslaughter, and that's where he will be for the next 15 years of his life. I'm glad I learned my lesson with a $80 citation, a year without my license, and double the insurance rates. It's saved me 15 years of my life, and made the rest of society a safer place.
As for the loud muffler, good luck. Of the 2 a month our department writes on average, I haven't seen one get canceled since I've worked here (2+ years now), and more than half are appealed. An officer DOES NOT have to prove it was too loud. Him saying it was louder than the reasonable person would expect a stock unmodified automobile to be is reason enough to cite you on the offense, EVEN IF the exhaust is stock. Yes, a car manufacturer can sell a car that breaks the law in stock unmodified form. Look at the Z06. At full throttle, it breaks the sound ordinances in most states that have them at a certain decibel level.
The risk you put every other citizen in is enormous, and I hope you learned your lesson. I had the pleasure of receiving a 12 point Grand Auto Contest citation when I was 16. Changed my life forever. I haven't been in a street race since, haven't gotten a speeding ticket since, haven't been pulled over since. And I always thought, well I'm safe, I'm smart about it. And I thought a good friend of mine was too. Today he's in prison for Vehicular Manslaughter, and that's where he will be for the next 15 years of his life. I'm glad I learned my lesson with a $80 citation, a year without my license, and double the insurance rates. It's saved me 15 years of my life, and made the rest of society a safer place.
As for the loud muffler, good luck. Of the 2 a month our department writes on average, I haven't seen one get canceled since I've worked here (2+ years now), and more than half are appealed. An officer DOES NOT have to prove it was too loud. Him saying it was louder than the reasonable person would expect a stock unmodified automobile to be is reason enough to cite you on the offense, EVEN IF the exhaust is stock. Yes, a car manufacturer can sell a car that breaks the law in stock unmodified form. Look at the Z06. At full throttle, it breaks the sound ordinances in most states that have them at a certain decibel level.
03-18-2007, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
As for the loud muffler, good luck. Of the 2 a month our department writes on average, I haven't seen one get canceled since I've worked here (2+ years now), and more than half are appealed. An officer DOES NOT have to prove it was too loud. Him saying it was louder than the reasonable person would expect a stock unmodified automobile to be is reason enough to cite you on the offense, EVEN IF the exhaust is stock. Yes, a car manufacturer can sell a car that breaks the law in stock unmodified form. Look at the Z06. At full throttle, it breaks the sound ordinances in most states that have them at a certain decibel level.
03-18-2007, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FieroZ34
As for the loud muffler, good luck. Of the 2 a month our department writes on average, I haven't seen one get canceled since I've worked here (2+ years now), and more than half are appealed. An officer DOES NOT have to prove it was too loud. Him saying it was louder than the reasonable person would expect a stock unmodified automobile to be is reason enough to cite you on the offense, EVEN IF the exhaust is stock. Yes, a car manufacturer can sell a car that breaks the law in stock unmodified form. Look at the Z06. At full throttle, it breaks the sound ordinances in most states that have them at a certain decibel level.
Anyways, if the charges are racing/DUI, get a lawyer! There's a reason that everyones telling you to do so. This isn't some lame parking ticket.
03-18-2007, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by edwardswb
While I fully agree with you on the street racing/possibly drunk driving bit...I think this loud exhaust law is ******* stupid. If someone's out racing around with open headers, by all means..ticket the dumbass. But any officer that gives a ticket to someone with a catback or stock exhaust that is minding his own business and driving responsibly is a c*nt bag. And the fact that it's nearly impossible to win a case like that in many states is sad. Why don't officers just start accusing us of murder too? If the officer doesn't have to PROVE it then I guess that would be an effective form of population control. I believe the saying goes, "Innocent until proven guilty." Unless you are a car enthusiast.
And yes, the above is right, it varies greatly from state to state. I am only knowledgeable in the basic laws of Colorado and Oklahoma, and nothing I say should be taken as fact, because I do make mistakes. (Though rare...lol).