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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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Im trying to setup what I need for my 99 c5 corvette.

Im opting to spray a 175 Wet shot.

I need a window switch, Id like a progressive controller, and a timing tuner that can easily retard arround 7degrees(how much is needed for a 175 shot?)

Is there a unit that can do it all in one, Or will i have to purchase seperate pieces. Im going for something thats easy to use and install.

Is there another way to pull the timing i need easier? If i had the timing retarted in the tune, how much HP would I sacrifice(enough timing for 175 shot)

I will drive the car 99% of the time off the bottle so id like the most na power as possible.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Yes unfortunately if you're looking for all of those features you're looking at separate units. If you're not on the bottle except for that 1% of time, then it would certainly be nice to run full timing N/A. Shoot me over a PM with what you currently have and what your goals are and we can discuss some options for you. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by vetteboyc5
Im trying to setup what I need for my 99 c5 corvette.

Im opting to spray a 175 Wet shot.

I need a window switch, Id like a progressive controller, and a timing tuner that can easily retard arround 7degrees(how much is needed for a 175 shot?)

Is there a unit that can do it all in one, Or will i have to purchase seperate pieces. Im going for something thats easy to use and install.

Is there another way to pull the timing i need easier? If i had the timing retarted in the tune, how much HP would I sacrifice(enough timing for 175 shot)

I will drive the car 99% of the time off the bottle so id like the most na power as possible.
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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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as Nick mentioned there is nothing out there at the moment that houses both units in one box. Here are a couple of things that you can pair up to get accomplished what you are wanting to do.

Progressive Controller's
FJO - http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...product_id=952

NOS Mini - http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=1539

NOS Launcher - http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=2971



Timing Controller's
MSD LS1 Model - http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=2967

Lingenfelter Timing Controller - http://nitrousoutlet.com/catalog/pro...roduct_id=3467
Best Choice IMO

-Chris

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Old Dec 1, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Sent you a PM back.

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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I just installed a Lingerfelter timing controller a couple of weeks ago. This had to be the easiest install ever. It took me a total of five minutes.

I would look into the progressives Chris posted above and use the lingerfelter timing box for the most reliable results.
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Lingerfelter timing controller and HSW progressive controller so you can delay the n20 solenoid and avoid lean spike.
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Chris can you delay n20 solenoid activation with this controller?



http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...product_id=952
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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I am not a fan of delaying the solenoids. Set the system up correct and there is no reason to. However you can delay out the spike by spliting the noids on different stages if you want to go that route.

Link no worky.
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
I am not a fan of delaying the solenoids. Set the system up correct and there is no reason to. However you can delay out the spike by spliting the noids on different stages if you want to go that route.

Link no worky.
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over in this thread theres a dyno sheet, I guess there set up isnt right either cause theres a huge spike@3500 when the system turns on!
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fuel is heavier and slower than n20 how do you suggest on fixing this problem?

so are you saying the FJO controller you sell will or will not delay the noids?
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Not all systems have a spike. Sometimes you will have a spike due to the nitrous traveling faster than the fuel. A small spike that only last a split second is fine and nothing to worry about. However simply shortning the distance on the fuel hose or lenthing the line on the nitrous can tune out the spike..

Lets say you have a directport doing it as well and the directport is using rails. Simply hardlining some distance between the nitrous solenoids and the rails will tune out that spike as well.

I have set up and tuned many nitrous cars in my time. Having a bad spike is not a real common problem. Normally if there is one something is not right. For example not enough fuel system etc..

I am not saying that what you suggested is wrong or bad. Everyone always has there own style. Mine is just alittle different.
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A small spike is ok yes, but on a traction limited car this can induce tire shake.


will that FJO controller you sell delay the n20 noid?
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I know the NOS mini will. Ill have to look at something before I say the FJO Mini will or will not.
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Originally Posted by BLKHAWK1
over in this thread theres a dyno sheet, I guess there set up isnt right either cause theres a huge spike@3500 when the system turns on!
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fuel is heavier and slower than n20 how do you suggest on fixing this problem?

so are you saying the FJO controller you sell will or will not delay the noids?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with delaying solenoids. Its essentially the same as altering line length. There are even more ways around this. Ideally you'd want to track down the deficiency in the system, however sometimes there just isn't a way around the spike. Just two different ways of going about it. I would suggest doing this on a dyno to ensure equal and repeatable results with either method.

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