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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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I recently added a used hyfire 685 box to go along with my nitrous install. The box gets power and the car has started once with it installed. I was able to check that it was functioning (tested rev limiter) and found that it was. It only started after a lot of cranking. Now, it won't start at all with it wired in, but when I go and switch back to stock (using the MSD harness) it starts right up. I can't seem to find a contact number on Mallory's site, and their knowledge database is a little rough. What should I test?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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What are the settings on the ignition box? That has alot to do with it working.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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start retard is set to .1, which is the lowest it will go. The window switch low and high are set to 3500 and 5700, respectfully. The rev limiter is set high enough as well. I'm stumped. I just went out and ran a wire from the battery to the 12v keyed power on the hyfire to test if it was getting a strong enough signal, and it made no difference. Still no starting when it is plugged in.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Did you wire it correctly? You basically are going to hook up a total of 6 wires to get the box to function, one is for power, one is for ground, and the other 4 will be crimped to the MSD harness which will in turn plug into your ignition coil. Here is the correct color coordination for the MSD harness to the Mallory box:
Red to Red
Black to Black
White to Green
Orange to Yellow

I'll go check the settings on my 685 right now and post up ALL the settings.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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I appreciate it. And I went through my harness and all the wires are correct.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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Understand that you won't use all these settings but this is what I use on my nitrous LT1:

1) 6.5
2) 2.8
3) 4.0
4) 0.1
5) 3.0
6) 5.8
7) 0.5
8) 0.1
9) 8c
A) 3b

If it doesn't work after this let me know. You probably have "Tach Test" on and it won't start this way either. Let me know and I'll tell you how to turn it off.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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I was having this problem as well so I took the box apart and sure enough it was fried, So I sent it back to mallory and they refurbed it for $100
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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My settings are similar enough to not cause anything odd And I am pretty sure I made sure to turn off the test tach by following the instructions in mallory's pdf. I switched it to mode 1, turned it off, then back on. no luck though.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pyro719
I was having this problem as well so I took the box apart and sure enough it was fried, So I sent it back to mallory and they refurbed it for $100
How did you know it was fried? Did it still turn on?
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Does the little circle next to the "Mode" button blink when you crank it? Does the car even crank?
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Yes to both. It cranks.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Could be a bad box as mentioned. Thats the only other thing I can see being wrong at this point. I just know people forget about the tach test thing, I know I did the first time and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start for a while. LOL Just make sure it is off for sure. As you said turn the key to "accessory", 685 to option 1, key off, then back on.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Mine fried after a year i got summit to exchange it for free under the one year warranty. I was cruising along the highway to my mercedes benz job interview when i looked down at the speedo and said out loud this car runs real good its so dependable. Not 2 seconds later it died. How ironic was that. I bypassed the box and it stated right back up.
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Originally Posted by brickonwheels
How did you know it was fried? Did it still turn on?
Yup still trned on. I could switch through all the options but it just wouldnt fire. I opened the box up and the things that look like amolifier mosfets were smoked.
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Originally Posted by pyro719
Yup still trned on. I could switch through all the options but it just wouldnt fire. I opened the box up and the things that look like amolifier mosfets were smoked.
What exactly should I be looking for? Excuse the cell phone pic.
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The aluminum bars on the right side. Check the connections at the bottom of them to see if there are any that are burnt.
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Originally Posted by pyro719
The aluminum bars on the right side. Check the connections at the bottom of them to see if there are any that are burnt.
I don't see anything overtly burned. Damn
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If it was working the way its wired up now then its probly a bad box
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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I figured out my issue. I was running a keyed 12v to the mallory when it should have been a constant from the battery. I ran a short wire from the battery straight to the mallory and the car fired right up. The window switch, rev limiter, and timing retard are all working just fine. Thanks for the help guys.
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