If you run 1/8 it also helps level the field. We get 15 cars local within .3-.4 in the 1/8 you cna make up near that on the tree and hooking. in the 1/4 its hard to make up .8 or 1 second even if they sleep and spin. if there was a 275 ( or any DR)class with rules to make it fair We would show up for sure.

 

Jeremy,
I will call Brian ( Mad man) to see who we need to talk to. I could probably help arrange talking to a good field of serious cars to see what it would require to get them there.
Dave

 

I'd like to see what kind of weight breaks there would be along with a rough draft of the rules. I would love to race at the shootout but it's kind of hard to get excited about going racing when you know that you are not gonna win.
I do not want to see the turbo guys have to use smaller turbo's or anything else that will slow them down just so we can compete with them. If we are gonna do that then why not just cut our ***** off and just ask them to spot us a couple of lengths? I would rather see a separate class for the nitrous cars, maybe something like the 275 class so that even us slow guys have a shot.

 

I would love for it to be a nitrous only class as much as anyone else, but if the car count isn't there, the class will never leave the discussion stage. I don't think it would be bad to include the FI guys, but if you don't put some serious limits on them you will have some of the middle of the pack DR guys dropping down to run 275. You have to look at it from NMCA's point of view--DR is the "crown jewel" of the Shootout. If this class would take any cars from it, I am sure they would be hesitant about allowing an addidtional class.

 

I don't see why it has been so hard to make a class for mid 8 to low 9 second cars.
I would like to see a class with some rules similar to this:
275 DR's max size tire.
Any size Nitrous pills with push systems.
Blower cars limted to D1SC or F1C-R or YSI trims.
Turbo cars limted to 76-88mm's.
As far as weights give a break for Small cube cars, All motor cars and Small blower cars.
I don't why it would be hard to fill this kind of class.

 

I agree an F1R and T4 flange88 can make as much as a N20 car.

The only problem I see is getting the guys with a little less to show up.

 

I agree with this. Make the class 1/8 mile 275 drag radial. that would level the playing field and we would have a chance with the FI guys. Those are the only two limitations needed. Any FI or n20 combo that way there is a way bigger field. Well a minimum weight requirement also.

 

I think you and ShiznityZ28 are dead on with this. Heads-up 1/8 racing is alot easier on parts, more spray, less time.

 

No other class in the NMCA is 1/8th mile.
Plan on it being 1/4 mile if it happens.

 

I would put some srt of limit on how big the fi guys can go to keep the big hitters in the big dr class. then run a heads up small fi/nitrous 275 class. 1/4 would work but 1/8 would be funner! LOL

 

1/8th would be better for us but you know the FI guys wouldn't like it. I honestly prefer 1/4 over 1/8th myself, nothing like the pull in high gear!

I don't think that they will go for a second drag radial class, it would basically be the same as what they are doing now, just with slower cars. I think for them to be interested we need to have an all out nitrous class, any tire, weight breaks for the smaller cubic inch guys, amount of stages, etc.
The sooner everyone agrees to a certain class the better chance we will have to get it done. How about we come up with two or three options and start a poll?

 

If you do this, you will have a 4-5 car class. Might not even have that many. My guess would be Tuff, Black TA, RPM, and maybe Guess Who. Now we have the same problem as we currently have in DR. The "have's and the have-not's"

All of those guys run bottom 8's. Is there any amount of weight break that would put you within .5 of them?

In order for this to be even remotely successful, everyone is going to have to make some sort of compromise. I know those guys don't want to run a 275, but I'm sure people don't want to line up a mid 9 sec car against someone who has gone bottom 8's. While weight breaks will tighten it up a little, but the tire will throw a whole new factor into the equation.

 

Ok, I see what you are saying. I really don't see a 275 slowing them down THAT much. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, if they decide to have an all nitrous class I will be there to support it.
It can't be that hard to figure something out, I'm gonna go lay under my car and ponder on this for a while.

 

What about a heads up 275 DR class kind of like an EZ street race. Where the rules require interior. ie. door panels , carpet, dash and two front seats in stock location. This would cater to alot more people. Hell maybe even require a legal tag and registration.

 

 

guess your car dont have a tag but your not fast enough to run with the big FI cars. But the tag was just a suggestion to maybe keep some of the heavy hitters out. I could still see it being an 8 second class ven with the legal tag.

 

I would be up for that.

 

The problem you are going to get into with that is, you are fighting other classes. We aren't trying to find King of the Street. We're trying --within reason-- to find the baddest car out there on 275's.

The rough draft of rules has a section in it for stock dash and finished interior. Basically meaning carpeted interior.

 

That sounds good.

 

No new interest on this?? I know Wormboy put his .02 in over in the FI section. Do you think this is the way the NMCA feels about it?