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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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well i finished installing the nano system in my car, everything just fit perfectly in the wheel well, i'll get pics up later, i need to know though what if anything i need to change to make my current setup work. It is a dry single nozzle plumed into the intake elbow, i am using a NOS brand 75 hp or 100 hp jet, and i am using the HSW interface to controll my fueling. And the microedge for my AFR shut off. Will i need to change anything with the interface to adjust for the NANO i know they reccomend changing the fuel jets but since i'm using the interface for my fueling di i actually need to change anything?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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Everything worked great on my wet kit, only thing we discovered, is that we used the same jetting IE. 100 fuel/100 nitrous. I spoke with brad about this, and the car was still slightly on the rich side with matching jets in it. 75 nitrous/100fuel. I fell below 10-1 AFR. matching jets, im roughly 10.9-11.3
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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okay cool thanks, hopefully someone with a dry system and interface setup, i guess for now i'll trust the microedge to keep the motor safe, and i'll definatly be datalogging everything so if it gets rich i will try to adjust that out. If anyone has already been through this with a similar set up i'd love to hear it, or else i'll just be the genuea pig
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unless you go down a few jet sizes you are probably going to be lean. Simple fix though, just pop open in interface and adjust your fueling, same as you did before. The NANO kit and the interface go very well together. I have a nitrogen push system in my car and having the interface made it so easy to tune.
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Everything worked great on my wet kit, only thing we discovered, is that we used the same jetting IE. 100 fuel/100 nitrous. I spoke with brad about this, and the car was still slightly on the rich side with matching jets in it. 75 nitrous/100fuel. I fell below 10-1 AFR. matching jets, im roughly 10.9-11.3
That sounds really odd, there's no way you should have been rich. If you were rich though, how come you went down in nitrous jet size, not fuel jet? Where did it come out at with 100/75 jets?
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pics please.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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That sounds really odd, there's no way you should have been rich. If you were rich though, how come you went down in nitrous jet size, not fuel jet? Where did it come out at with 100/75 jets?
69 hp increase, and around 10-1 AFR. this was with 26* of timing as well. 100/100 netted 97ish hp increase, and AFR was around 11-1 AFR, same timing with 104 gas. 125 jets netted 10.9-11.3 - 1 AFR. full nano bottle, full nitrous bottle. so thats how its tuned!
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69 hp increase, and around 10-1 AFR. this was with 26* of timing as well. 100/100 netted 97ish hp increase, and AFR was around 11-1 AFR, same timing with 104 gas. 125 jets netted 10.9-11.3 - 1 AFR. full nano bottle, full nitrous bottle. so thats how its tuned!
weird, i still can't understand how you would have went fat with the NANO on their. Your A/F ratio should have went up more then it did with that jet change. Something just doesnt seem right.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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should it be something i should be concerned about? i mean I sent my tuner a log file from the other night, on about a half full bottle, he said everything looked great, I was in the appropriate range on AFR as well.
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should it be something i should be concerned about? i mean I sent my tuner a log file from the other night, on about a half full bottle, he said everything looked great, I was in the appropriate range on AFR as well.
I would want the A/F at least a half point higher at 11.8-12.0. What was your bottle pressure at? typically we have see that it takes a 75 nitrous and 100 fuel jet with the NANO system to come out to the right A/F ratio. This is a good thing and shows that it does what its intended to do. Not only does it help with pressure drop, but also gives you a denser charge of nitrous since your not heating the bottle anymore. This is why your fuel jet size should be higher then the nitrous jet. I dont think its anything to be really concerned about, but your car did produce some curious results. I cant physically see a reason that you would have gotten richer unless something was up.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:23 PM
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it only got richer with a higher fuel jet. Same jet netted good results, consistently in the low-mid 11's AFR. when this occurred I was dead nuts full on both bottles. Bottle pressure was around 1000 psi.
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what was your A/F before the nano?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Na passes, 12.8
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no nitrous before and after nano?
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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no, I dont have a bottle heater or anything.
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What kind of kit are you running? like i said, you should be fine and i wouldnt be worried about anything.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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HSW kit, sudden impact I believe with an 92mm plate. While im at it, are those small solenoids good for a 175/200 hit?

P.S. I might guinea pig something tonight, and put it in a sink (bottle warmer) and see what im at without the nano.
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Just remember, basically we are gaining approx 25% power with NANO and this occurs latter in the run when pressure drop would have normally taken place. For wet hits, jet a 100hp shot from 100fuel to 120 fuel jet to compansate. then of course fine tune a/f ratio. The dry hits, just bump the HP up a couple notches on the Interface for safe a/f ratio, or go down in jet size if you want to remain at current power level, then fine tune a/f with the Interface. 25% more power with the same jetting is a wonderfull thing.
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Just remember, basically we are gaining approx 25% power with NANO and this occurs latter in the run when pressure drop would have normally taken place. For wet hits, jet a 100hp shot from 100fuel to 120 fuel jet to compansate. then of course fine tune a/f ratio. The dry hits, just bump the HP up a couple notches on the Interface for safe a/f ratio, or go down in jet size if you want to remain at current power level, then fine tune a/f with the Interface. 25% more power with the same jetting is a wonderfull thing.
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like mentioned in my other thread. I have 100/100 and 125/125 jets in it. AFR was slightly on the rich side with that. Throughout the runs on the dyno, it wasnt going leaner at all. This was verified with 2 widebands.

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like mentioned in my other thread. I have 100/100 and 125/125 jets in it. AFR was slightly on the rich side with that. Throughout the runs on the dyno, it wasnt going leaner at all. This was verified with 2 widebands.

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