I plan to buy either a nitrous outlet wet plate kit or a hsw wet plate kit. I want to do it on a budget. So what is the mininum accerories I need to run with this kit.

 

Window Switch and Nitrous Filter and a Bottle Heater

1. Window Switch to spray above 3000- XXXX
2. Nitrous Filter to keep trash out of you noid
3. Bottle Heater to keep the pressure where it needs to be for appropriate AFR
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4. Purge if your looking for track consistancy.
5. A few extra jets for tuning AFR

I think both vendors have package deals.

 

You might want to check out our plate kit combined with our all out accessory package. These two combined should be just about everything you would need for a consistent and safe system. The plate itself is easily one of the best designed on the market. With 10 nitrous and fuel discharge points spread across the full 360 degree perimeter, it gives incredible distribution.

Not only will you be getting a top quality product you'll also be getting top quality support behind it. Nick, Matt, and myself are always around answering questions...even on weekends.

 

I can vouch for HSW. I am nearing completion of my HSW nitrous system(plate kit, all-out kit and bracket) and they have been awesome with help. The quickly answer my questions and trust me, there has been a lot haha.

 

So about $1,100 to do it right.....for the gain I guess that's not that bad.

 

Our plate kit is $600 and the all out kit will be $450 plus shipping. Other costs to add in will be switch plate, bottle opener, standalone, etc are all the optional pieces. What shot size do you plan on going with? Has the car ever had a tune and timing was advanced?

 

Budget is understandable. Keep in mind it is always cheaper to do it right the first time. I like to suggest to people that can not do it all in one swype to take there time and buy the parts as they can. Make sure the tune is cheacked and you are running the needed safety accessories.

This is a link to explain what the most needed basic accessories are.
http://www.nitroustech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2

I would suggest at a bare minumum. System, bottle heater, gauge and filter.

If we can do anything to help you and teach you please let us know.
Dave

 

i plan on spraying a 125 or 150 shot. the car is gonna be tuned in two weeks because im doing a cam and full bolt ons. how much does it cost on average to install a system and all the acceorys?

 

Install price will vary from shop to shop. For us to do an average system with the normal accessories we charge around 800.00.

Dave

 

If you follow instructions well you should be able to install yourself. I think we easily have the most indepth and instructions with our kit. Should be pretty simple for you.

 

You can do alot of the work yourself, I chose to run the wires and the mainline, and placed all the components (Mounted the bottle, placed the window switch switch panel etc). I then took it to some one who knew what they were doing to wire it all together and watched and learned how to on the wiring. Had a total of 4 hours shop time ($40-$50 an hour IIRC), 2 of those hours was installing a Wideband.

LOL of course it took me a week to install everything prior (took the seats out carpeting etc...) so depends if you have more time than money or more money than time on how much you let a shop do

 

I aggree with Beer. If you are good at following instructions there is no reason why you can not do the install your self. As a plus we have a full time technical forum and 4 of the most knowledgable techs in the market that actually answer the phone all day long.

Could be a project you would enjoy.
Dave

 

Well said Mike. To add to what you said, its best to lay out everything ahead of time so that when you do get to installing it, everything isn't foreign. The most intimidating part is the wiring, but if diagrams are ever needed that aren't in the instruction manual, they are offered free of charge on our website. Just one of the free value added services we offer where others charge for it.

Nick

 

Nick,

Wouldnt you say its pretty fair to say most if not all Nitrous companys send colored diagrams with there product instructions? I can not think of any that do not. Atleast all the companies I am familiar with do. I also am not aware of any of these companies charging for the instructions or diagrams.

Dave

 

No, I will be 100% honest I've seen some pretty poor instructions in my day and there are still companies that haven't made the transition to full color. I do remember coming across a few posts in the past where companies were charging for dvd instructions as well as a diagram service. That's not a knock on any one company out there trying to make a buck, I was just stating that its not something we elect to do. If they were having a hard time integrating other products into their system I would be more than happy to help them figure the wiring out.

Nick

 

I did not know that. I was under the impression that all companys were supplying what was needed at this point in the game.

I have to tell you. We spend alot of time explaining wiring and going over diagrams with customers. WE also do not charge for this service. Average diagrams for our products are saved on our computers and emailing it to a customer that does not have it is very simple to do. I have no idea why any company would not provide that service.

We recently steped it up a notch and created a service no other company provides. This may be what you were refering to as people charging for diagrams.

We now offer a service that provides alot of man hours to provide. You can only imagine the skills some one would have to have to understand many different types of electronics and how to adapt them all in to one system. Well since we have those skills and ability in house we decided to offer a service for those seeking a completely drawn out diagram of everything from the system, all accessories, dedicated fuel system, ingnition, etc. We can offer a diagram that fits the customers exact needs to a T.

Its funny how many calls we get from people wanting help on products other than ours. I guess we are pretty much the only company that answer's the phone all day.

Anyways with this very indebt service it requires many man hours to look up different products, call manufactures foir instructions if not online etc. It also requires alot of time adapting this in one big diagram that has everything. I have seen one diagram take as much as 4 hours or more.

So yes we do charge for this service as its out of the ordinary. But making money off of it we are not. Its simply a service we provide so the average Joe can install his own nitrous system and accessories out in his drive way with out paying a shop hundreds to thousands of dollars to do so.

If you figure the time it takes VS the 30-50 dollars we may charge to provide this very detailed diagram its easy to see it is no money maker. Its just simply a service we offer many others can not.

Whats funny is we have seen other company's using our diagrams to explain how to install there product... So in many cases we are helping our competition as well.

Dave

 

I just ordered a wet plate kit (Lt1) from Dave with one of their custom painted bottles they have on sale. Came out with all the accessories and an upgrade from the switch to a mallory for around $1500. Not a bad deal at all, just wish I lived in texas so I could pick that stuff up.

 

Its funny, I see the same thing...I've seen numerous quotes and stickies that are just copied and pasted from others hard work. Anything from spark plugs to proper wire locations on factory vehicles to even certain companies FAQ. The funniest one I saw was a direct copy and paste from a Universities website explaining Gas laws. Another hillarious one I saw was a quote stolen from a website in the UK concerning flame speed and detonation. I suppose that's what happens when you have people working for companies that can't think on their own...maybe that's why they hire a few kids to just answer the phones and steal things from google searches. I'm not really sure? Maybe its time for some of these companies to step into the digital age? But then again its a VERY SCARY thought to think a company might attempt to draw a diagram about certain products they cannot and do not fully understand and of which they might charge you for. I know if I paid for something I would be under the impression the other end knew what they were doing which looking at things today, simply isn't the case. I guess that's why we get so many phone calls from disgruntled customers of other brand items...they're sick and tired of talking to a kid on the phone. Again, just one of the many value added FREE services offered at HSW.

Nick

 

Nick,
Not sure how we went from Detailed Diagrams to the discussion we are in but ok.lol

I hear you about having qualified phone technicians. If you have noticed some of the largest companies have people working the phones these days that have no idea what they are talking about other than what they are reading from a book layed out for them. I guess that is what makes our company so unique. All of our employees actualy use Nitrous and share the same hobby as our customers. Now don't get me wrong My employees do not know everything but they are some of the most knowledagble in this field. Since I can not be everywhere I do rely on them to do as much as they can. When they hit an area they are not sure about they come get me. Some of my employees have been working for me for well over 8 years or more. So we have a pretty good team and working relation ship. The reputation we are so well known for is do to our knowledgable technical help. Not everyone can provide that.

When it comes to posting on the forums it requires alot of time and man hours. Occasionally I have seen just about everyone including you copy and paste some technical info or published article from some where else to better help explain what they are trying to discuss. This speeds up the process so that you can continue being productive at work. So I do not really see an issue with doing this as long as you are not taking credit for some one elses work.

Dave