To TR6, or not to TR6?
Someone melts their stuff down... I'm not gonna be the guy that said it was o.k.
You've built how many engines? Don't give me your sarcasm because I learned enough over the years to make things work. Last edited by Firehawk441; Sep 1, 2009 at 06:00 AM.
So Ive just installed a NOS Power Shot solenoid and a .42 jet onto my 99FORMULA with PP 85/85 setup, Lid, full exhaust, smooth bellow, Lid, and 4000 stall. Should get about a 75shot out of it no? Well I was wondering wether I should go with an NGK TR6 plug or not. If I do what should I gap them at? How much timing should I pull? Im running NGK TR55s right now. Someone help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
*Note: if you have done something to increase cylinder pressure or plan on spraying more, then you may want to look at using a cooler plug.
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Guys !! .. all nitrous sponsers and expert nitrous users here are recommanded BR7EF for anything within 150 shot, above that they recommanded BR8EF ..
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
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From: olympia, wash
Guys !! .. all nitrous sponsers and expert nitrous users here are recommanded BR7EF for anything within 150 shot, above that they recommanded BR8EF ..
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
I have trouble believing that.
It's only been fairly recently that the EXPERTS have come out with this info.
People have been using TR6 plugs with nitrous here on LS-1 tech for years.
Check the archives.
You can agree with the experts all you want, but history shows the good 'ol TR6 is just fine for a medium hit.
Yeah, and for a long time people thought smoking was good for you due to it's "relaxing" qualities...
Buy the "hype" of years gone by if you like, but a non-projected plug IS the right plug for nitrous and it doesn't make any sense to try to run a hot plug in a nitrous motor.
Buy the "hype" of years gone by if you like, but a non-projected plug IS the right plug for nitrous and it doesn't make any sense to try to run a hot plug in a nitrous motor.
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From: olympia, wash
Yeah, and for a long time people thought smoking was good for you due to it's "relaxing" qualities...
Buy the "hype" of years gone by if you like, but a non-projected plug IS the right plug for nitrous and it doesn't make any sense to try to run a hot plug in a nitrous motor.
Buy the "hype" of years gone by if you like, but a non-projected plug IS the right plug for nitrous and it doesn't make any sense to try to run a hot plug in a nitrous motor.
Show me the facts where tr6 plugs are damaging engines on medium hits of nitrous where the tune is correct.
Yeah, they can work, but why not just throw in the RIGHT plug instead of one that's mediocre at best.
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From: Mckinney,TX
Guys !! .. all nitrous sponsers and expert nitrous users here are recommanded BR7EF for anything within 150 shot, above that they recommanded BR8EF ..
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
So why you don't take a time to read the stickies, or go with what they are saying .. man they do alot of tests and they know their stuff better than me and you with TR6
People did it with TR6, but they are not the right one !
LS1 Stock and AFR
Thread – 14mm
Reach - .708”
Socket – 5/8 hex
Seat - Taper
Stock Heat Range: 5
Gap: .060
Plug: NGK TR55 (stock number 3951); NGK TR55IX (stock number 7164); Autolite 764; Denso IT-16 (stock number 5325)
Nitrous (one step colder)
Heat Range: 6
Gap: .035 - .038
Plug: NGK TR6 (stock number 4177); NGK TR6IX (stock number 3689); Autolite 103; Denso IT-20 (stock number 5326)
Not taking sides just wondering why everyone says read stickies but stickes differ from "expert" opinions???? Is this info out dated???
Then why does sticky titled "spark plug info" say:
LS1 Stock and AFR
Thread – 14mm
Reach - .708”
Socket – 5/8 hex
Seat - Taper
Stock Heat Range: 5
Gap: .060
Plug: NGK TR55 (stock number 3951); NGK TR55IX (stock number 7164); Autolite 764; Denso IT-16 (stock number 5325)
Nitrous (one step colder)
Heat Range: 6
Gap: .035 - .038
Plug: NGK TR6 (stock number 4177); NGK TR6IX (stock number 3689); Autolite 103; Denso IT-20 (stock number 5326)
Not taking sides just wondering why everyone says read stickies but stickes differ from "expert" opinions???? Is this info out dated???
LS1 Stock and AFR
Thread – 14mm
Reach - .708”
Socket – 5/8 hex
Seat - Taper
Stock Heat Range: 5
Gap: .060
Plug: NGK TR55 (stock number 3951); NGK TR55IX (stock number 7164); Autolite 764; Denso IT-16 (stock number 5325)
Nitrous (one step colder)
Heat Range: 6
Gap: .035 - .038
Plug: NGK TR6 (stock number 4177); NGK TR6IX (stock number 3689); Autolite 103; Denso IT-20 (stock number 5326)
Not taking sides just wondering why everyone says read stickies but stickes differ from "expert" opinions???? Is this info out dated???
Because that info has been around for years, and has never been updated as the users of LS1Tech became more knowledgeable. I started to take a shot at removing all of the projected tip plugs in there, but got busy at work and never got back to it.
So blame me
I guess I'll have to make some time to do that soon.
Ray is trying to help people from additional wear on your motor while spraying nitrous and more than likely blowing it up (by less wear I mean less cylinder temp). Over the past few years it has came to light that the TR-6 is not the best plug to run for nitrous especially since it has a projected tip. I personally run 7s on 150 and under and 8s on 200 -250. I know a handful of guys on here that are only trying to help others and Ray is one of them. Take his advice and save your motor.....
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From: olympia, wash
A projected tip plug, like a TR6, WILL retain more heat than an non-projected one. More heat retained = greater chances of detonation. Detonation + Nitrous = HURT PARTS.
Yeah, they can work, but why not just throw in the RIGHT plug instead of one that's mediocre at best.
Yeah, they can work, but why not just throw in the RIGHT plug instead of one that's mediocre at best.
Folks on this site have been using them for over a decade for shots of up to 150.
Now thats on the ragged edge for sure, and few will deny that.
But for 75-100 rwhp hits, on a daily driven ride, you can't argue that the TR6 plugs havn't delivered.