True or False- Who has the best design!
12-20-2009, 07:55 PM
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holy cow that was long.
There are so many vairables with nitrous.
We used a speedtech plate on marks car with absolutely no problems. 300 for 2 years without taking out any plugs or hurting any parts. Raced it and put in the garage till the next race. LOL
It is all about the plug read.
Nice info on that post Dave. Hope all your new projects come out good. Be sure and keep a close eye on those plugs. I bought a plug reading kit and it really helps fine tune.
On my car the dry kit is much easier to tune then a wet kit with flowing fuel pressure.
There are so many vairables with nitrous.
We used a speedtech plate on marks car with absolutely no problems. 300 for 2 years without taking out any plugs or hurting any parts. Raced it and put in the garage till the next race. LOL
It is all about the plug read.
Nice info on that post Dave. Hope all your new projects come out good. Be sure and keep a close eye on those plugs. I bought a plug reading kit and it really helps fine tune.
On my car the dry kit is much easier to tune then a wet kit with flowing fuel pressure.
03-26-2010, 02:10 PM
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your sig says you chose NX
this thread title is pure madness...
i think its awesome you're getting away from the weak marketing bullshit. i can't wait for those plug pics.
could you also do a test where you take a car (ls1 fbody, hemi powered car or whatever you're targetting these days), throw your plate on it and spray a 200+ shot (with proper plugs and supporting tune/fuel assuming the plate will do what it is supposed to)... check/replace plugs, then spray a 200+ shot with another manufacturer's plate (you bagged on a 360 degree design, who sells those???) and check the plugs again. those plug pictures would be great.
this thread title is pure madness...
Our results speak for them self. Ask another nitrous company to show you results spraying that much through the front of the intake manifold time and time again with the plugs showing a proper delivery! They can not do it! Only Nitrous Outlet can!
So I challenge you to question the things you here. Don’t just fall for the best sounding sales pitch. Ask for proof of claims.
So I challenge you to question the things you here. Don’t just fall for the best sounding sales pitch. Ask for proof of claims.
could you also do a test where you take a car (ls1 fbody, hemi powered car or whatever you're targetting these days), throw your plate on it and spray a 200+ shot (with proper plugs and supporting tune/fuel assuming the plate will do what it is supposed to)... check/replace plugs, then spray a 200+ shot with another manufacturer's plate (you bagged on a 360 degree design, who sells those???) and check the plugs again. those plug pictures would be great.
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03-26-2010, 02:49 PM
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I just ordered the plate today. Ditching the MAF kit, because my car is speed density. I'm sure at my power level, either plate would provide similar results.
03-29-2010, 05:34 PM
#47
Currently we are slammed and the possibility of taking time out to satisfy a select few is just not possible. We have been working overtime and weekends for months now just to plumb all the intakes and build custom one off products. I will try to find a test car and time in the future. Just not possible right now.
I personally no longer use a Fast intake on my cars and I have no plans on spending the money to purchase a fast intake and step backwards on my set up to redo testing I have already put so much time and money into. Now at some point during this year if one of our customers want to spray that amount through our plate and have me tune thier car I will make sure I save all the data to make the select few happy.
Until then I guess we will just have to take my word and all our customer awesome results for proof.
Never know what this year holds.....
Dave
03-29-2010, 08:03 PM
#48
at least you admitted you didn't expect to be called out on your claims to be able to show proof.
i have products from nitrous outlet (as well as a few others) and i'm happy with them.
but as you couldn't produce the proof to satisfy the select few, i also have to say...
03-29-2010, 11:34 PM
#49
I am going off your statement alone that says: "Ask another nitrous company to show you results spraying that much through the front of the intake manifold time and time again with the plugs showing a proper delivery!"
We have yet to see any plugs showing proper delivery from you, so how can we trust that statement and your product with out these? Trust? we all know where that can get us. Facts are facts and can not be doubted.
Again without these facts that are proven, it is just a sells gimmick. Im not here to argue with you, but let it be known, if you are gonna claim something like the above and not have the proper info to go with it, it is absolutely pointless.
Cam
We have yet to see any plugs showing proper delivery from you, so how can we trust that statement and your product with out these? Trust? we all know where that can get us. Facts are facts and can not be doubted.
Again without these facts that are proven, it is just a sells gimmick. Im not here to argue with you, but let it be known, if you are gonna claim something like the above and not have the proper info to go with it, it is absolutely pointless.
Cam
03-30-2010, 12:36 AM
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Fair enough.. Race season is here and we are just now starting to get pretty weather. I am sure I will get the oportunity to shut the nah sayers up just as I have many, many, many times before.
I have been the top active nitrous sponsor on this site since 2002. The reputation we have is for good reason.
I have no worries to showing proof and the good thing is I can do it the same time I am doing another project I am working on..
Looking for tuning vehicle now... Game on...
Dave
I have been the top active nitrous sponsor on this site since 2002. The reputation we have is for good reason.
I have no worries to showing proof and the good thing is I can do it the same time I am doing another project I am working on..
Looking for tuning vehicle now... Game on...
Dave
03-30-2010, 12:50 AM
#51
Post date and time (11-04-2009, 03:04 AM ) Notice the date as well.. At that time and up until now we have not really had the perfect weather and the cars going to provide results.. After we get caught up at the shop and I hit a point where I can find a car looking to spray that much through the plate I will gladly share plug shots with you guys and teach you in the process.
Dave
03-30-2010, 01:03 AM
#52
You know Im not here to bust your *****, Just some things that stood out that I wanted to clear up. Fact on fact basis.
Yes the intended article is great and really long. I dont even remember if I read every single sentence. Cant wait to see the results so we can all see and learn.
Dont take it as a bad thing, just constructive criticism.
Yes the intended article is great and really long. I dont even remember if I read every single sentence. Cant wait to see the results so we can all see and learn.
Dont take it as a bad thing, just constructive criticism.
03-30-2010, 09:40 AM
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I don't have any plug pix, but I get great distribution with my 5th gen kit spraying a 200 shot.
I will be racing tomorrow, but have to trouble shoot my fogger setup on my 4th gen. NX lightning noid pressure locking I think. If I do run the 5th gen I'll pull the plugs at the big end & get pix on the 200 hit.
Don't worry Dave, I still need a stand alone for the 5th gen, but as with you, I'm a business owner & am behind the ball on taxes. Everyone else gets to take advantage of tax sales, I have to save money during those sales to pay my taxes.
I will be racing tomorrow, but have to trouble shoot my fogger setup on my 4th gen. NX lightning noid pressure locking I think. If I do run the 5th gen I'll pull the plugs at the big end & get pix on the 200 hit.
Don't worry Dave, I still need a stand alone for the 5th gen, but as with you, I'm a business owner & am behind the ball on taxes. Everyone else gets to take advantage of tax sales, I have to save money during those sales to pay my taxes.
