Dry shot!!!!!
Here are the top 15 guys for 2009 ....
Show me 1 that uses a lean shut down.
I know a few that dont for sure, I'll bet none of them do.
1---8.11@165.00--1.29--400 shot--RPM-24--------'00 camaro---TH210--8/01/09 Post 46--
2---8.20@166.79--1.27--400 shot--Smith--------'01 camaro---Glide--9/18/09 Post 59--
3---8.65@159.32--1.31--250 shot--Firehawk441--'94 Hawk--TH400--10/25/09--#83--30x10.5 radial
4---8.68@159.87--1.38--300 shot--LS1Queen----- '00 Transam--TH350--5/03/09 Post 36
5---8.83@149.30--1.28--350 shot--waterproofer---trans am-----glide--10/17/09 post# 77
6---8.84@155.00--1.30--175 shot(dry)--ATVracr------- '99 Fromula--Auto----8/07/09 Post 47
7---8.96@154.00--1.38--250 shot--Red91z-------- '91 camaro---glide--- 7/18/09 Post 44
8---8.97@155.23--1.34--<125 shot--taner-------- '96 Camaro SS---T56--- 10/18/09
9---9.00@150.20--1.34--300 shot--Ls1speedaddict---'00 Trans Am---Glide--11/7/09--Post #25
10--9.09@149.71--1.35--275 shot--Loudmouth LS1----- '99 Camaro--TH400--4/29/09-Post 34
11--9.39@144.00--1.34--150 shot--n20stroker----------'00 T/A------TH400--3/24/09-Post 30
12--9.40@148.x0--1.31--250 shot--Sprayin96TA------96 Trans AM VERT(SBC)-- TH400--post 78
13--9.44@145.x0--1.54--XXX shot----BAKED--------99 Camaro-----Glide--11/8/09--post # 28
14--9.48@143.28--1.30--300 shot--ericg69ss--------02WS6---TH400-post 53
15--9.67@138.27--1.370--150shot--Dustin601--1998 Camro--th400--10/20/09--post 72
Show me 1 that uses a lean shut down.
I know a few that dont for sure, I'll bet none of them do.
1---8.11@165.00--1.29--400 shot--RPM-24--------'00 camaro---TH210--8/01/09 Post 46--
2---8.20@166.79--1.27--400 shot--Smith--------'01 camaro---Glide--9/18/09 Post 59--
3---8.65@159.32--1.31--250 shot--Firehawk441--'94 Hawk--TH400--10/25/09--#83--30x10.5 radial
4---8.68@159.87--1.38--300 shot--LS1Queen----- '00 Transam--TH350--5/03/09 Post 36
5---8.83@149.30--1.28--350 shot--waterproofer---trans am-----glide--10/17/09 post# 77
6---8.84@155.00--1.30--175 shot(dry)--ATVracr------- '99 Fromula--Auto----8/07/09 Post 47
7---8.96@154.00--1.38--250 shot--Red91z-------- '91 camaro---glide--- 7/18/09 Post 44
8---8.97@155.23--1.34--<125 shot--taner-------- '96 Camaro SS---T56--- 10/18/09
9---9.00@150.20--1.34--300 shot--Ls1speedaddict---'00 Trans Am---Glide--11/7/09--Post #25
10--9.09@149.71--1.35--275 shot--Loudmouth LS1----- '99 Camaro--TH400--4/29/09-Post 34
11--9.39@144.00--1.34--150 shot--n20stroker----------'00 T/A------TH400--3/24/09-Post 30
12--9.40@148.x0--1.31--250 shot--Sprayin96TA------96 Trans AM VERT(SBC)-- TH400--post 78
13--9.44@145.x0--1.54--XXX shot----BAKED--------99 Camaro-----Glide--11/8/09--post # 28
14--9.48@143.28--1.30--300 shot--ericg69ss--------02WS6---TH400-post 53
15--9.67@138.27--1.370--150shot--Dustin601--1998 Camro--th400--10/20/09--post 72
i prefer dry over wet.
your spray bar should evenly distribute through your maf, however that is the issue with your usual dry kit. how are you going to know how much your maf is reading? you need a wideband. with a dry nozzle, you could use a wideband and adjust the nozzle until it registered just enough on the maf to give you the fuel you wanted.
after going with the interface, i don't even want to remember all the crap i went through trying to get it all dialed in just right with spraying the maf. i almost didn't need the wideband after switching to the interface (its like my interface is connected to my wideband, that's how precise it seems).
with larger injectors, i'm running 150 dry with a 70 degree nozzle through a smooth bellow and it is awesome.
wet or dry kits at some point will need more than the stock fuel pump. so when you say you don't know why anyone would want to run dry "at 200 or more" since you would be stressing the fuel system, you sound like you're implying that you can spray beyond 200 wet without stressing the fuel system. comprende?
also, lots of guys run the interface with their wet kits to pull timing and make slight fuel corrections.
your spray bar should evenly distribute through your maf, however that is the issue with your usual dry kit. how are you going to know how much your maf is reading? you need a wideband. with a dry nozzle, you could use a wideband and adjust the nozzle until it registered just enough on the maf to give you the fuel you wanted.
after going with the interface, i don't even want to remember all the crap i went through trying to get it all dialed in just right with spraying the maf. i almost didn't need the wideband after switching to the interface (its like my interface is connected to my wideband, that's how precise it seems).
with larger injectors, i'm running 150 dry with a 70 degree nozzle through a smooth bellow and it is awesome.
well considering your utilizing your fuel injectors/fuel system to inject the extra fuel needed in a dry kit, your wrong about that, although the wet DOES pull fuel from the rail, it doesnt need the car to compensate from the nitrous, it does that with its own selenoid, its just another route for the fuel to travel to....
and an interface would be completely pointless on a wet kit as well...do you even know what the interface does? and if so, explain to me how that would have anything to do with a wet kit? it commands the factory fuel system to compensate automatically for the dry kit when activated..
a lean shutoff switch is also a good idea, not sure what you would think its crap?
and last, yeah your right, a wideband is a good idea with a wet kit as well, but i never said it was only for a dry kit..
and an interface would be completely pointless on a wet kit as well...do you even know what the interface does? and if so, explain to me how that would have anything to do with a wet kit? it commands the factory fuel system to compensate automatically for the dry kit when activated..
a lean shutoff switch is also a good idea, not sure what you would think its crap?
and last, yeah your right, a wideband is a good idea with a wet kit as well, but i never said it was only for a dry kit..
also, lots of guys run the interface with their wet kits to pull timing and make slight fuel corrections.
Here are the top 15 guys for 2009 ....
Show me 1 that uses a lean shut down.
I know a few that dont for sure, I'll bet none of them do.
1---8.11@165.00--1.29--400 shot--RPM-24--------'00 camaro---TH210--8/01/09 Post 46--
2---8.20@166.79--1.27--400 shot--Smith--------'01 camaro---Glide--9/18/09 Post 59--
3---8.65@159.32--1.31--250 shot--Firehawk441--'94 Hawk--TH400--10/25/09--#83--30x10.5 radial
4---8.68@159.87--1.38--300 shot--LS1Queen----- '00 Transam--TH350--5/03/09 Post 36
5---8.83@149.30--1.28--350 shot--waterproofer---trans am-----glide--10/17/09 post# 77
6---8.84@155.00--1.30--175 shot(dry)--ATVracr------- '99 Fromula--Auto----8/07/09 Post 47
7---8.96@154.00--1.38--250 shot--Red91z-------- '91 camaro---glide--- 7/18/09 Post 44
8---8.97@155.23--1.34--<125 shot--taner-------- '96 Camaro SS---T56--- 10/18/09
9---9.00@150.20--1.34--300 shot--Ls1speedaddict---'00 Trans Am---Glide--11/7/09--Post #25
10--9.09@149.71--1.35--275 shot--Loudmouth LS1----- '99 Camaro--TH400--4/29/09-Post 34
11--9.39@144.00--1.34--150 shot--n20stroker----------'00 T/A------TH400--3/24/09-Post 30
12--9.40@148.x0--1.31--250 shot--Sprayin96TA------96 Trans AM VERT(SBC)-- TH400--post 78
13--9.44@145.x0--1.54--XXX shot----BAKED--------99 Camaro-----Glide--11/8/09--post # 28
14--9.48@143.28--1.30--300 shot--ericg69ss--------02WS6---TH400-post 53
15--9.67@138.27--1.370--150shot--Dustin601--1998 Camro--th400--10/20/09--post 72
Show me 1 that uses a lean shut down.
I know a few that dont for sure, I'll bet none of them do.
1---8.11@165.00--1.29--400 shot--RPM-24--------'00 camaro---TH210--8/01/09 Post 46--
2---8.20@166.79--1.27--400 shot--Smith--------'01 camaro---Glide--9/18/09 Post 59--
3---8.65@159.32--1.31--250 shot--Firehawk441--'94 Hawk--TH400--10/25/09--#83--30x10.5 radial
4---8.68@159.87--1.38--300 shot--LS1Queen----- '00 Transam--TH350--5/03/09 Post 36
5---8.83@149.30--1.28--350 shot--waterproofer---trans am-----glide--10/17/09 post# 77
6---8.84@155.00--1.30--175 shot(dry)--ATVracr------- '99 Fromula--Auto----8/07/09 Post 47
7---8.96@154.00--1.38--250 shot--Red91z-------- '91 camaro---glide--- 7/18/09 Post 44
8---8.97@155.23--1.34--<125 shot--taner-------- '96 Camaro SS---T56--- 10/18/09
9---9.00@150.20--1.34--300 shot--Ls1speedaddict---'00 Trans Am---Glide--11/7/09--Post #25
10--9.09@149.71--1.35--275 shot--Loudmouth LS1----- '99 Camaro--TH400--4/29/09-Post 34
11--9.39@144.00--1.34--150 shot--n20stroker----------'00 T/A------TH400--3/24/09-Post 30
12--9.40@148.x0--1.31--250 shot--Sprayin96TA------96 Trans AM VERT(SBC)-- TH400--post 78
13--9.44@145.x0--1.54--XXX shot----BAKED--------99 Camaro-----Glide--11/8/09--post # 28
14--9.48@143.28--1.30--300 shot--ericg69ss--------02WS6---TH400-post 53
15--9.67@138.27--1.370--150shot--Dustin601--1998 Camro--th400--10/20/09--post 72
im not sure why anyone would WANT to run dry at 200 or more because its stressing your fuel system greatly at that point imo...and the only way i would be caught dead spraying dry is if i had an HSW interface, lean shutoff switch, and a wideband...at least
comments like the one above show that he has no clue really how the **** works.... stressing your fuel system greatly???? Uhhh okay you run a pump big enough to support engine hp + Nitrous hp and injectors that cover the total amount of hp you want to run and you're good provided your lines can handle the volume.... dry and wet generally comes down to tuneability, manifold design, personal preference, class rules, etc.....
My point i'm trying to make is the guys that are running 400+ shot like myself, ATV, Shiznity and the guys on that list (Which BTW why am i NOT on there at 9.06@154mph???) all started somewhere with 150 shots and ****.... We got to 300 and 400 shots by understanding how smaller shots work and we worked our way up from there... So just because we are running big shots doesn't mean we don't understand how to run small shots...exactly the opposite. small shots = larger windows of tuning before you blow something up..... big shots = small windows before **** blows up... that's all....
not sure why i would lead him down the wrong path with what i said but ok..if you guys are the big dogs at dry **** then why are you only talking about how much you've done and not helping him with the questions he asked?
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hahah you guys can stop fighting over lil ole me... you guys have all helped me in someway. im just trying to find a little more info on the spray bar, which is the design that is put inside of the lid = spraying before the maf i was told this is a NO NO. but i have been reading saying that the spray bar evenly distributes the nitrous so it shouldnt be that big of a deal which I AM PURCHASING A INTERFACE form HSW. hahah anyone from HSW or robert 56 wonna give me any insights on how you think that set up will work i understand that i got kit from nitrous daves.....
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Verdad Gallardo I see no problem with the spray bar.
Its not the most efficent way to spray a car but it will work.
The farther away from the valve you inject the N20 the less effective it is to a point.
Hold your hand 3' from the bottle and open it ... cold right.
Now hold it 6" from the bottle and open it. (dont really do that) you get the point.
You may have to spray 125 shot to get 100hp to the wheels but I dont see where that will hurt anything.
Its not the most efficent way to spray a car but it will work.
The farther away from the valve you inject the N20 the less effective it is to a point.
Hold your hand 3' from the bottle and open it ... cold right.
Now hold it 6" from the bottle and open it. (dont really do that) you get the point.
You may have to spray 125 shot to get 100hp to the wheels but I dont see where that will hurt anything.
yeah the spray bar is fine but as others have said the distance from the valve will preclude an instantaneous vicious hit to the tires..... there is a reason why most plate systems and direct port especially are as close as possible to the valve... and the cooling properties of the incoming air charge do decrease as well.....
im running a 150 dry with a lean fuel shut down switch and i have 2 lines one on each side of the box and it puffs up in the box before the maf and i dont have all that stuff you guys are talking about,been doing it for a year now and have no problems,i didnt pull no timming let the computer do it all the work.
im running a 150 dry with a lean fuel shut down switch and i have 2 lines one on each side of the box and it puffs up in the box before the maf and i dont have all that stuff you guys are talking about,been doing it for a year now and have no problems,i didnt pull no timming let the computer do it all the work.
I run the Interface and MicroEdge, and they work flawless. I have an a/f shutdown with the MicroEdge driven by an AEM wideband. I also have ALL of the safety features that the MicroEdge has active aswell. And on top of that, my car is tuned to ALWAYS pull 1* of timing, on top of the interface pulling 2* for a 100 shot and 3* for a 150. Alot of people say it is overkill, but you can never protect your engine from failure enough. Please give the guys at HSW a call. They are alot of help, ESPECIALLY when it comes to dry systems. Call Nitro Dave aswell, he is also a very good person to deal with. Before you start spraying, do as much reading as possible and know FOR SURE that you have no questions unanswered. Im by no means a nitrous expert, but I do happen to know quite a bit about happy gas, so feel free to PM me with any help you may need.
