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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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ok, well i had some ?'s after coming off the dyno. on a 100 shot the car dynoed at 516hp and 514 tq (didn't understang the tq number on that one) and then on a 150 shot it did 522hp and 632 tq. Now for the main question. the car runs 11.9's on motor @ 116-117 (always bogs real bad off the line and on nitrous tune). runs consist 10.7's on the 150 shot @ 127-128. Now what i don't understand, one of my bottles that i just weighed a little over 21 lbs after a few dyno pulls and 1 pull on the street 1st-4th gear. I made 3 passes on that bottle yesterday and it still weighs just a touch over 20lbs. from what i have read the consumption should be .8 lbs for every 100hp every 10 seconds. so a 150 shot should be 1.2lbs every 10 seconds so i figure it should use aroun 1.3 lbs per pass. Why did it only use a little over a lb in 3 passes? could the solenoid not be opening all the way and could be the reason it only picked up 6hp on the dyno? or could a couple of bends in the line from noid to plate be too much and hindering the flow of the juice? the car has an ms4 cam and stock ls6 heads on it and stock ls6 intake.... any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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assuming its a 10lb bottle and you started with it full, it would weigh right about 25 lbs so if its right at 21lbs thats 4lbs gone, which still seems a little low, but not too far off from what i would think...

unless im not understanding, in which case, never mind! haha
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mitch cobb racing
assuming its a 10lb bottle and you started with it full, it would weigh right about 25 lbs so if its right at 21lbs thats 4lbs gone, which still seems a little low, but not too far off from what i would think...

unless im not understanding, in which case, never mind! haha
yes its a 10 lb bottle, but it was full before the dyno, 3 pulls on dyno, 1 street pull 1st-4th gear, and 3 passes at the track and still weighs 20 lbs. so out of all that, i should have only used 4 lbs..????
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Same scale? Kinda odd situation with your dyno numbers...

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ok, ya. that does seem weird. and like nick said, the dyno numbers seem weird too! could the line be blocked or something like that? wrong nitrous jet maybe?
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Same scale? Kinda odd situation with your dyno numbers...

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yup same scale, same dyno, only difference for the dyno was weather, 80deg first time around on the 100 shot and apx 60deg when we did the 150 shot

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ok, ya. that does seem weird. and like nick said, the dyno numbers seem weird too! could the line be blocked or something like that? wrong nitrous jet maybe?
yeah i think i'll take the lines off and check to see if they might have something blocked and check the noids. the jets are 62nitrous and 38 fuel
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well, first off that seems REALLY rich for a 150 shot, i run a 33 or 32. which might explain the minimal power increase.
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What jet? and if its a bathroom scale there not real accurate under 50lbs. you sure your guy didn't over fill it to start?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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What jet? and if its a bathroom scale there not real accurate under 50lbs. you sure your guy didn't over fill it to start?
yes its a bathroom scale, but with the bottle empty it weighs right on what its supposed to. And what i'm saying is, it weight 21lbs before any passes saturday and 20 lbs after 3 passes....
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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could the solenoid not be opening or something electrical causing the noid to open and close during a pass? what does your dyno chart say?
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yes its a bathroom scale, but with the bottle empty it weighs right on what its supposed to. And what i'm saying is, it weight 21lbs before any passes saturday and 20 lbs after 3 passes....

than somethings wrong. might want to spray the kit in a bucket or away from the car for a longer time to make sure its not sticking closed.

you can flow the kit by weighing the bottle and putting a stop watch on it spraying for a measured amount of time then re weighing the bottle. its not perfect but will show you if there is an issue.
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Try what Steve said above. First try open flowing minus the plate/nozzle and see if there are any issues going on with the solenoids/lines/bottle. If it looks good try flowing the plate/nozzle along with the system. It will be a rough estimate but at least you'll be able to see any issues. If you need approx. flow rates for orifice size let me know.

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Originally Posted by itsslow98
could the solenoid not be opening or something electrical causing the noid to open and close during a pass? what does your dyno chart say?
the chart looks solid through the whole pass, no dips through out the whole run.

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than somethings wrong. might want to spray the kit in a bucket or away from the car for a longer time to make sure its not sticking closed.

you can flow the kit by weighing the bottle and putting a stop watch on it spraying for a measured amount of time then re weighing the bottle. its not perfect but will show you if there is an issue.
I'll try that, thanks

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Try what Steve said above. First try open flowing minus the plate/nozzle and see if there are any issues going on with the solenoids/lines/bottle. If it looks good try flowing the plate/nozzle along with the system. It will be a rough estimate but at least you'll be able to see any issues. If you need approx. flow rates for orifice size let me know.

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I appreciate the help. the nitrous jet is a 62 jet, and from the noid to the plate its a -3 line if thats what you need for flow rate. -4 line from bottle to noid.
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the chart looks solid through the whole pass, no dips through out the whole run.

I'll try that, thanks


I appreciate the help. the nitrous jet is a 62 jet, and from the noid to the plate its a -3 line if thats what you need for flow rate. -4 line from bottle to noid.
I'll shoot you a PM with some flow rates.

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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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I'll shoot you a PM with some flow rates.

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