Best cam only with n2o
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Best cam only with n2o What is a good cam to run in a LQ4 with cam only and a 150 shot? Pretty son I should be started a build and im curious to see what everyone here thinks is a good n2o cam. Thanks.
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Sorry about that. Normal bolt ons like LTs and lid. Be an auto with a stall pending what size I need according to the cam I get. LS6 intake, ported TB, and 3.73s. Im sure I forgot something in there. I haven't gotten parts yet but in the process of maybe buying a roller WS6 and a LQ4 block. Idle quality I do not care about. Choppy is great but concerned with performance over sound. I don't wanna do to big of a cam and have a none balanced build. I should be driving the car everyday so I would like the driveability to be good. Is the ms3 a bad daily driver cam? Seems pretty radical but not sure if it would affect normal operations with the car and if its worth a **** with n2o. Thanks.
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Far as I know yes I should be running the stock 6.0 heads unless they limit the setup alot. I know this is a very broad question but trying to get as much info as possible to determine what I need.
ON a stock head/ ls6,setup Id make something along the lines of a 228-230 on the intake, 232-234 on the intake, 114LSA( would make it 116 on a carb style intake) 580 lift for the stock heads or 62X on a good set of ported stocks( should flow to just about 630) Id also put a adjustable timming set in cause it may want 1-2 degrees of advance.
so a streetable setup 228-232 580 580 116 +2
little roughter idle more NA less nitrous HP vs max 228 - 230 580 580 112
all out nitrous but fits with stock heads gaskets etc 232 - 238 580 580 116 +2.
Its also important to use the right lobe. a lazzy lobe can ruin the cam.
also if you plan to mill the heads( I would) or thinner gaskets(I would not) you may need to meassure and fly cut. If your fly cutting you could grind somehting way more aggressive.
PM me if you need more help.
so a streetable setup 228-232 580 580 116 +2
little roughter idle more NA less nitrous HP vs max 228 - 230 580 580 112
all out nitrous but fits with stock heads gaskets etc 232 - 238 580 580 116 +2.
Its also important to use the right lobe. a lazzy lobe can ruin the cam.
also if you plan to mill the heads( I would) or thinner gaskets(I would not) you may need to meassure and fly cut. If your fly cutting you could grind somehting way more aggressive.
PM me if you need more help.
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i would go ms3 with a 112-114 lsa, irc nitrous like a little higher lsa....ive also been told the thunder cam i have (in my sig) will really like the spray, but i guess we will see this spring 
Do any of you know what a ms3 is? maybe figure out what the numbers are/mean before just offering a solution. the "XXX" cam might be great for 1 guy but change up heads/intake/exhaust/weight, converter etc and it might be the worst cam ever...
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This is why I posted in this section on here. I know nothing about LSX nitrous setups. I've messed quite a bit of sbc setups but first with the LSX. Thanks for the replies guys. When I start getting parts I'll post up on what I should do. My goal is to break into the 11s as a DD.
the cam options you threw up are pretty broad for someone asking for straight forward response, and imo not the greatest specs...
and just to humor you the MS3 is a 237/242 .603/.609 on your choice of 112/113/114 lsa, and as stated a bit higher lsa would be suitable for spray, also the larger duration and lift on the exhaust side would also compliment the spray without sacrificing NA power...
he also stated that he would match his converter to his cam, so a 3600-4k would do fine....and exhaust/weight shouldnt be much of an issue with cam choice while under the curve or high rpm range power curves should be what your looking at, but since he is going for track power, the ms3 again is a good choice
so stick that in your pipe an smoke it..
and my car first time out after doing a head swap (bone stock 243's) and tuning the day before racing ran the time in my sig and was consistenly getting faster, should go 11.70's on motor and im hoping to get in the 10.80 range on spray...so you can reference for mods...but an lq4 shouldnt have a problem running in the 11's cam only..
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Awesome thanks for the insight man. I was mainly worried about being able to DD the ms3. Seems good to spray with to. Its not going to be an all out track car. And I would rather have a good range of power throughout the power band compared to a dyno queen with a high peak power but dead everywhere else. Seen way to many people run to large of cam without getting supporting mods. The LQ4 I might get has a hole in a piston so will be replacing them if I get it. With what I mentioned, would it be worth the money to go forged? And my brother has a set of fully ported heads with like 2.08s(I don't know all the specs) that came on his car. They dropped a valve and ruined the short block. He's scared to run them but I might check the castings and see if they are worth a ****. If so, I'll run those.
i would definitely forge it if you have the cash, less to worry about in the long run...and if you get a big enough stall the ms3 will have plenty of streetable power...also maybe try looking into the el torro cam or have patrick G or predator Z spec you a custom cam..
you are a f*cking idiot and wanna be internet warrior. Everything you just stated makes you look like a retard to people that actually know cam specs and what they do for a motor unlike your internet mumbo jumbo. I have a Ms3 and dont agree with anythung you say. They are 50x better cams out there if you knew how to spec one with the right lobes, valve events and duration but im sure you already knew that right?
go back to your hole and learn a little bit more before offering stupid advice that is one sided. I can promise you I can spec a cam and replace the ms3 cam in my car and it will go faster, what does that say about your advice?
have a good day newb
go back to your hole and learn a little bit more before offering stupid advice that is one sided. I can promise you I can spec a cam and replace the ms3 cam in my car and it will go faster, what does that say about your advice?
have a good day newb
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Is the el torro a larger cam? I remember seeing that somewhere but don't remember the specs. What I meant to say is it worth it to do forged pistons only? Not the crank or rods. In all reality, I'll prolly go stock pistons maybe bore it just if it needs it. But if I got the cash I will go forged pistons. Just more insurance and could run a higher shot. I was thinking with cam only and mods listed above, 150 shot. Like to go wet but not to sure how to hook everything up.
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you are a f*cking idiot and wanna be internet warrior. Everything you just stated makes you look like a retard to people that actually know cam specs and what they do for a motor unlike your internet mumbo jumbo. I have a Ms3 and dont agree with anythung you say. They are 50x better cams out there if you knew how to spec one with the right lobes, valve events and duration but im sure you already knew that right?
go back to your hole and learn a little bit more before offering stupid advice that is one sided. I can promise you I can spec a cam and replace the ms3 cam in my car and it will go faster, what does that say about your advice?
have a good day newb
go back to your hole and learn a little bit more before offering stupid advice that is one sided. I can promise you I can spec a cam and replace the ms3 cam in my car and it will go faster, what does that say about your advice?
have a good day newb
yeah dude, im sure the OP really appreciates your helpful post...if your so Fckin smart then help the guy out..and please, correct what i said that was wrong...i never said a custom spec'd cam wouldnt make more power because obviously that is the best option but for off the shelf cams im saying the ms3 would be a decent cam for the guy...why dont you turn your doucher useless post into something worthwhile for the guy, like i have been trying to do...