98 A4, MS3, tuning, TR6's or br7ef plugs???
#28
I guess I feel like you guys market too hot of a plug for a given shot... Hell, y'all almost had me set on tr-6's for an earlier nitrous setup years ago before I started doing my research and talking to people... Maybe y'all know something me, Baked, ATV, Shiz, etc. don't.
#29
im with chris on this one.
i feel this is super conservative. better safe than sorry i suppose so i would have a set of 7s ready to go in at the track after a run wit the 8s
i feel this is super conservative. better safe than sorry i suppose so i would have a set of 7s ready to go in at the track after a run wit the 8s
Last edited by disc0monkey; 02-20-2010 at 12:16 AM.
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I'll probably get a vacation for this, but why would you tell him this. He needs to start with the safer plug and then move to a hotter plug if you don't see color on the ground strap...
I guess I feel like you guys market too hot of a plug for a given shot... Hell, y'all almost had me set on tr-6's for an earlier nitrous setup years ago before I started doing my research and talking to people... Maybe y'all know something me, Baked, ATV, Shiz, etc. don't.
I guess I feel like you guys market too hot of a plug for a given shot... Hell, y'all almost had me set on tr-6's for an earlier nitrous setup years ago before I started doing my research and talking to people... Maybe y'all know something me, Baked, ATV, Shiz, etc. don't.
Being that this guy has a H/C + bolt on's car the 7 usually looks great on that type of set up.
There have been some that have bad luck with a TR6 but look at how many years people have run that plug with no problems. Hell i ran a 200hp shot on TR6 yrs ago with no problems at all..Never once melted a plug. Now a days i wouldn't do it because there is a wider variety of plugs to choose from unlike years ago.
So to sum it up. I have no argument with using a number 8 plug at all. But most of the cars we have tuned comparable to this guys set up we have used number 7's and we shoot for a safe tune up of 11.8 air fuel and yank about 8-10 degrees of timing.
#32
There have been some that have bad luck with a TR6 but look at how many years people have run that plug with no problems. Hell i ran a 200hp shot on TR6 yrs ago with no problems at all..Never once melted a plug. Now a days i wouldn't do it because there is a wider variety of plugs to choose from unlike years ago.
The rule of thumb that I have heard from a few sources is 1 heat range colder per 100hp over stock. Since the OP has heads and cam, that would put him in a 6 from the start. Add 100hp n20, that's a 7, another 75-100 that's an 8. While this is only a "rule of thumb", it seems to ring true here.
Personally, I don't like driving around with the cold plugs, so I just change mine. It's not like your changing plugs on an LT1 or something. At the same time, I don't spray my car on the street, so I don't have any need to have that cold of a plug in there for normal driving.
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Just so you don't feel lonely, I sprayed 175 with the TR6 plug and had no problems. I know that is the equivalent of having a blow torch in there, but the plugs looked good. Nevertheless, I went colder to be safe. Even though I technically worked backwards, I agree with everyone in that the OP should start cold.
The rule of thumb that I have heard from a few sources is 1 heat range colder per 100hp over stock. Since the OP has heads and cam, that would put him in a 6 from the start. Add 100hp n20, that's a 7, another 75-100 that's an 8. While this is only a "rule of thumb", it seems to ring true here.
Personally, I don't like driving around with the cold plugs, so I just change mine. It's not like your changing plugs on an LT1 or something. At the same time, I don't spray my car on the street, so I don't have any need to have that cold of a plug in there for normal driving.
The rule of thumb that I have heard from a few sources is 1 heat range colder per 100hp over stock. Since the OP has heads and cam, that would put him in a 6 from the start. Add 100hp n20, that's a 7, another 75-100 that's an 8. While this is only a "rule of thumb", it seems to ring true here.
Personally, I don't like driving around with the cold plugs, so I just change mine. It's not like your changing plugs on an LT1 or something. At the same time, I don't spray my car on the street, so I don't have any need to have that cold of a plug in there for normal driving.
#34
What kind of a difference would it make on the motor driving around on these 8 plugs compared to the 6 or 7? I just bought the sevens by the way but I can still exchange them.
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#36
Would changing plugs require changing the tune? I believe my tune is right on where it should be with the current plugs im using TR55. So could I keep the same tune after switching plugs you think or would the new plugs require a retune?
#37
Shouldn't need a retune. As long as the tune is lean enough and has enough timing in low rpm/part throttle it won't foul the colder plugs or make any measureable difference. If it starts to foul them out, pull some fuel/add timing and see what that does.