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Old 04-26-2010, 07:46 PM
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Tr6 are the wrong plug, and why would you run more timing on a 200 than a 150?
Old 04-27-2010, 02:43 AM
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Like I said before Jordan I think it's your small lines going from the noids to the plate. I wouldn't be surprised if those are even -3 lines.

Remember it takes a smaller wrench for those lines than it does the main feed line, and pretty sure you have a -4 main feed.

So I say the small line from the nitrous noid to the plate is your problem.

That's why we were so rich on the 200 and 250 shot. The nitrous side just wouldn't flow enough through that little line.

Someone at Nitro Daves told me I would need a bigger line kit to spray more than 175 (if I had the braided lines, I actually have the hard ones so I'm good to go).

Might want to call them and double check that for your setup.
Old 04-27-2010, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TA1364
Tr6 are the wrong plug, and why would you run more timing on a 200 than a 150?
What he said !
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Like I said before Jordan I think it's your small lines going from the noids to the plate. I wouldn't be surprised if those are even -3 lines.

Remember it takes a smaller wrench for those lines than it does the main feed line, and pretty sure you have a -4 main feed.

So I say the small line from the nitrous noid to the plate is your problem.

That's why we were so rich on the 200 and 250 shot. The nitrous side just wouldn't flow enough through that little line.

Someone at Nitro Daves told me I would need a bigger line kit to spray more than 175 (if I had the braided lines, I actually have the hard ones so I'm good to go).

Might want to call them and double check that for your setup.

^^^ This is why I asked about the size of the line going to the noid. I personally think anything more than a 200 shot needs to have a bigger feed line.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
What he said !
I didn't do the tuning so I cant answer that one.
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Originally Posted by TA1364
Tr6 are the wrong plug, and why would you run more timing on a 200 than a 150?
You beat me to it. Not that this is where your power loss lies,but it is more related to a reliability (safety) issue.
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had the same problem went to -6 main line and made enough power to granade the stock short block
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Well I'm going to change the plugs as well as put the cam back to dot to dot. I think its letting cylinder pressure out early.

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Originally Posted by gsxr1k2
Well I'm going to change the plugs as well as put the cam back to dot to dot. I think it letting cylinder pressure out early.
I would suggest buying a -6an feed line and just having it handy when you go back to the dyno.
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The feed line isnt the problem, a -4an line can support that amount of nitrous perfectly fine. I would look into the lines from the solenoid to nozzle or plate way before the main feedline.

But even before that you need to find a better tuner because obviously they had no idea what they were doing. going up on timing, running a horrible plug, I think you go away lucky without hurting something. good thing it was only a dyno pull.
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Originally Posted by camscam02
The feed line isnt the problem, a -4an line can support that amount of nitrous perfectly fine. I would look into the lines from the solenoid to nozzle or plate way before the main feedline.

But even before that you need to find a better tuner because obviously they had no idea what they were doing. going up on timing, running a horrible plug, I think you go away lucky without hurting something. good thing it was only a dyno pull.
Tuner had nothing to do with his choice of plugs, build or shot.
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Originally Posted by RS_SS69
Tuner had nothing to do with his choice of plugs, build or shot.
Tuner put more timing on a larger shot, thats not a good sign after "dialing in" the 150, and he should have known that spraying 200-250 on that plug was a cause for concern. Im not blaming the tuner, but not someone I would want tuning my car personally. But maybe he didnt know any better...

good luck to the op.
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Originally Posted by RS_SS69
Tuner had nothing to do with his choice of plugs, build or shot.
Didn't say he did. Don't start any ****. I trust his tuning and it was my choice to run those plugs which we must have made 15 pulls with no issue. I knew they were a little hot but they held up fine. I will look into the lines from the noids to the plate.

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get yourself some better plugs to start with. Then upgrade your -3 lines they are only good to 175 hp. Then take a little more timing out. Should make the power you want then.
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Originally Posted by gsxr1k2
Didn't say he did. Don't start any ****. I trust his tuning and it was my choice to run those plugs which we must have made 15 pulls with no issue. I knew they were a little hot but they held up fine. I will look into the lines from the noids to the plate.
its not that they are a little hot, it is that they are a projected tip plug, 5 bucks it would have ate the tips on 200 and def. on 250 on a track pass ecsp. where you had your timing.

Thats not your hp problem but something you need to address.
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Originally Posted by gsxr1k2
Didn't say he did. Don't start any ****. I trust his tuning and it was my choice to run those plugs which we must have made 15 pulls with no issue. I knew they were a little hot but they held up fine. I will look into the lines from the noids to the plate.
Roll up off your high horse there captin stubing, just stating to the other guy that the tuner was not responsible for what you had done to the car or had in the motor. Not starting ****.
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was the plate maxed out?
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Originally Posted by camscam02
Tuner put more timing on a larger shot, thats not a good sign after "dialing in" the 150, and he should have known that spraying 200-250 on that plug was a cause for concern. Im not blaming the tuner, but not someone I would want tuning my car personally. But maybe he didnt know any better...

good luck to the op.

What he said.

Find yourself another tuner.
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Originally Posted by RS_SS69
Roll up off your high horse there captin stubing, just stating to the other guy that the tuner was not responsible for what you had done to the car or had in the motor. Not starting ****.
Its been fairly obvious how **** gets spread wrongly in Colorado and I want no part in it. Thanks for adding so much technical advise to my thread. Captain Stubing???? Love boat?? LOL

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Originally Posted by TA1364
Tr6 are the wrong plug, and why would you run more timing on a 200 than a 150?
He did pull 7 degrees of timing for the 200. But I dont think it was getting a full 200 hit. He tuned it accordingly with how the car was reacting. Guess call it luck but I've been running tr6 for 3 years with spray and never once had ANY problems. I am going to change them though.

I'm going to return my cam to dot to dot, go to bigger noid lines, upgrade my stock injectors, run NGK BR7EF's and pull a little more timing. Any other suggestions?


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