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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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i just bought a camaro and i am gonna put a nos plate kit on it and i will probably run a 150 shot on the car my question is do i have to buy sommething to pull timing out for the nitrous or when i go get the tune done will the tuner have it setup when i turn the nitrous on the timing come out ?? i am new with the camaro's so excuse my ignorance lol thank you for any help
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Old May 23, 2010 | 12:44 AM
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For a 150 shot you definitely need to pull timing now the method is really your choice. You can get a nitrous tuning in which timing will always be retarded even when you run your car motor only. Now if you want the ability for the car to perform at its peak potential on motor and to be able to spray safely when you choose to, then you need to buy a nitrous controller that will pull timing when you choose to spray. A very popular one is the HSW Microedge along with the LNC-002 I personally have the HSW Interface controller that pulls timing the moment I arm the nitrous system. Do some research on these nitrous controllers to see which best suits your needs or future nitrous upgrades. I'm sure a sponsor will come in here and suggest what they have to offer you. Now remember there are other upgrades for that big of a shot that are necessary for spraying safely like injectors, fuel pump, and cold plugs.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 01:19 AM
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I just flash a separate tune. I've really been thinking about doing the IAT trick to pull the timing so I don't have to flash between N/A and N2O.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Any of the tuners from HSW or Nitrous Outlet work great.

I for one just did the timing tricker. Been using it for almost a year now and no issues.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by slap(A)hoe
i just bought a camaro and i am gonna put a nos plate kit on it and i will probably run a 150 shot on the car my question is do i have to buy sommething to pull timing out for the nitrous or when i go get the tune done will the tuner have it setup when i turn the nitrous on the timing come out ?? i am new with the camaro's so excuse my ignorance lol thank you for any help
If you want the best of both worlds ( Max hp/ timing N/a and max hp on the jug )then I'd suggest getting the Lingenfelter unit. By far the best timing controller out on the market Right now for the LSx vehicles.

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...1&product=3467
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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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What about the plugs? Do you need to worry about going to a colder plug?
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Originally Posted by Chris@NitroDaves
If you want the best of both worlds ( Max hp/ timing N/a and max hp on the jug )then I'd suggest getting the Lingenfelter unit. By far the best timing controller out on the market Right now for the LSx vehicles.

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...1&product=3467
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i have this
http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...switch-p-29946

and this

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...1&product=3467

my question is how do i wire them together with my fp hobbs shut off and tps and tach signal and relays (basically rewireing from scratch) cause i had a weird issue i think the controllers were getting in each others way cause the nos would come on and off sevral times during the dyno runs and my fp was fine
i have a nitrousoutlet 78mm plate nano kit setup for 100 shot
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Old May 24, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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What about the plugs? Do you need to worry about going to a colder plug?
Of course! 150 shot= NGK br7ef
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Of course!
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Pin 56 mod is great and doesn't cost ****!!!!
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
Pin 56 mod is great and doesn't cost ****!!!!
What he said, I'm rolling with the pin 56 mod. Its a COS5 for efi live.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
Pin 56 mod is great and doesn't cost ****!!!!
Originally Posted by blu byu EH
What he said, I'm rolling with the pin 56 mod. Its a COS5 for efi live.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
Pin 56 mod is great and doesn't cost ****!!!!
what is that
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by conde'strans
Of course! 150 shot= NGK br7ef
can i just use ngk tr6 for a 150 or no
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemunoz
what is that
Pretty much, you put a pcm pin into the C2 connector hole marked 56.

Pull the grey plastic cover off and look on the bottom row. You'll see that each spot has a number. Find #56, put your pin into that hole and wire it into the ground side of the solenoids.


Make sure you have a wire already connected to the pcm pin when you go to stick it in the empty hole or your fucked...
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Also, I believe that EFI live is the only tuning software that recognizes this COS(custom operating system). Maybe somebody else can verify this as well
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Originally Posted by mikemunoz
can i just use ngk tr6 for a 150 or no
Depends, you need to pull plugs and see what they look like. The plug will TELL YOU whats going on.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemunoz
can i just use ngk tr6 for a 150 or no
I would recommend using a NGK BR7EF ( Stock# 3346 )

Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
The plug will TELL YOU whats going on.
Bingo
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Old May 28, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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chris
i have this
http://www.lethalperformance.com/201...switch-p-29946

and this

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...1&product=3467

my question is how do i wire them together with my fp hobbs shut off and tps and tach signal and relays (basically rewireing from scratch) cause i had a weird issue i think the controllers were getting in each others way cause the nos would come on and off sevral times during the dyno runs and my fp was fine



i have a nitrousoutlet 78mm plate nano kit setup for 100 shot


do you have a wiring dia for my setup? or the the pdf file instructions for either unit i cant seem to find mine?
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