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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
Yeah the book says a 36F but I only have a 35F and 38F.
Ahh I see. Well get one more clean pass in with the timing pulled. I bet your pretty close.

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x2 on someone editing the pics to show what is wrong with the plug.

So you guys are suggesting to pull another four degrees from what he already has pulled out?
He needs to pull timing since he pulled these out at the 1/8th mile.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
What did the wideband say? Just wondering...
At the end of the run it was 11.25. 6500RPM 103MPH

Middle of the run it was 12.42.

Like the plugs show - Lean most of the run.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
At the end of the run it was 11.25. 6500RPM 103MPH

Middle of the run it was 12.42.

Like the plugs show - Lean most of the run.
Its a good idea to record that information.

Wideband reading, Weather conditions + pics of the plug from that run is really good info when it gets time to up jet.

Just trying to make sure your as safe as possible and have as much information as possible. Doing good tho sarge, should be spraying 300 soon.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NitrousExpress
Its a good idea to record that information.

Wideband reading, Weather conditions + pics of the plug from that run is really good info when it gets time to up jet.

Just trying to make sure your as safe as possible and have as much information as possible. Doing good tho sarge, should be spraying 300 soon.
I save my log from every nitrous run. Except last night. Forgot to even look at the WB gauge during the run. I had a midnight run with a 625RWHP Supercharged C5. I jumped out on him by a car and a half then he reeled me in as my pressure fell off. We stayed door handle to door handle until the end.

May start looking at adding a Nano setup.

I'll make another logged pull tomorrow and take pics of the #3 and #7 plugs.

I appreciate everyone's help.
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
I'll make another logged pull tomorrow and take pics of the #3 and #7 plugs.
Are those the two best plugs to check or are the easiest to get to?

Great thread Sarge.
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Great thread Sarge.
I agree.

Looking forward to the next set of plug pics.
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Im tuned in for some updates.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:01 AM
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The last run I found that I'm not getting enough fuel. Seriously lean. Just installed a KB Boost-a-Pump Friday. Need to make another run.
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
The last run I found that I'm not getting enough fuel. Seriously lean. Just installed a KB Boost-a-Pump Friday. Need to make another run.

Do you have a pic of that plug? Where you getting any detonation?
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Do you have a pic of that plug? Where you getting any detonation?
They looked exactly like the the pics I posted. Absolutely no change.

I just went for a run to see if the A/F looked better after the Boost-a-Pump and it seems to have fixed the fueling issue. I no longer get the a lean spike at all. A/F drops from 14.5 to 11.63 in 3/10s of a second and bottoms out at 11.03 at the end of the run and that includes a shift. I did get a slight rich dip during the shift to 10.89 but came back up to 11.89 at WOT and settled to 11.03.

Now I can make a plug run and get an accurate read with the fueling straightened out.
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
They looked exactly like the the pics I posted. Absolutely no change.

I just went for a run to see if the A/F looked better after the Boost-a-Pump and it seems to have fixed the fueling issue. I no longer get the a lean spike at all. A/F drops from 14.5 to 11.63 in 3/10s of a second and bottoms out at 11.03 at the end of the run and that includes a shift. I did get a slight rich dip during the shift to 10.89 but came back up to 11.89 at WOT and settled to 11.03.

Now I can make a plug run and get an accurate read with the fueling straightened out.
Awesome Steve. Glad you have it headed in the right direction again.

Good deal on the boost-a-pump idea we talked about. Saved you some headaches im sure.

Keep me up to date sir.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NitrousExpress
Awesome Steve. Glad you have it headed in the right direction again.

Good deal on the boost-a-pump idea we talked about. Saved you some headaches im sure.

Keep me up to date sir.
Hell yeah big props to you for suggesting that. Man I feel so much better not living on the edge now! LOL.
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Any updates sarge?
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Old Oct 29, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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If the temps go up this weekend I may due a run tomorrow. I don't like cold streets and 600+rwhp.
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Wish i could see the pics but sounds like you got a handle. also remember as the weather gets better you not only need a little(jsut a little) more fuel but the timming will need to be taken out.
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So you pulled additional 3-4* of timing on top of the 6* that you already pulled or backed down to 3-4* of timing hard to understand while reading.

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Originally Posted by RsSean
So you pulled additional 3-4* of timing on top of the 6* that you already pulled or backed down to 3-4* of timing hard to understand while reading.

Thanks
I'm at a total of -8 pulled total using the IAT adder table.
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That timing mark to me looks like about max I'd want to see after a 1/4 mile hit, they're right on with pulling 4 more then you already have.

Fuel, that may look better with the timing pulled but if you can add a touch back easily do it.

No need to burn that beast up on the fist couple hits.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
That timing mark to me looks like about max I'd want to see after a 1/4 mile hit, they're right on with pulling 4 more then you already have.

Fuel, that may look better with the timing pulled but if you can add a touch back easily do it.

No need to burn that beast up on the fist couple hits.
All of the pics are pretty much a wash due to fueling problems. I kept pulling timing and there was no change in the mark. Now that I got a boost-a-pump in and no more 2 second lean spike I can get a better read. I made one run on the last of the bottle after the boost a pump was in and A/F was right at 10.89-11.08 and no more lean spike. Now it's rich. I didn't pull the plugs then as it was at night and I was just seeing if the BAP made any difference and it did.

So now I have a full bottle and fueling fixed so I'll go to the street I do my runs on and and swap out plug 7 since it is my hottest cylinder and make my run with little to no driving on the plug. Make the run and pull the plug. That's about as accurrate as I can get it.

Prolly tomorrow AM.
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Originally Posted by SargeZ06
All of the pics are pretty much a wash due to fueling problems. I kept pulling timing and there was no change in the mark. Now that I got a boost-a-pump in and no more 2 second lean spike I can get a better read. I made one run on the last of the bottle after the boost a pump was in and A/F was right at 10.89-11.08 and no more lean spike. Now it's rich. I didn't pull the plugs then as it was at night and I was just seeing if the BAP made any difference and it did.

So now I have a full bottle and fueling fixed so I'll go to the street I do my runs on and and swap out plug 7 since it is my hottest cylinder and make my run with little to no driving on the plug. Make the run and pull the plug. That's about as accurrate as I can get it.

Prolly tomorrow AM.
Awesome Sarge! Glad its back to tuning. Post the plugs when you get around to it.
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