Controller to pull timing???
cool thanks for the search words. I found this. Looks like this would work since I do not have access to a tuner or controller yet.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...tor-trick.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...tor-trick.html
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Lingenfelter LNC-002 2-step with timing retard device status update The replacement product for the Lingenfelter LNC-002 2-step with timing retard function should be available to ship in about 4 to 5 weeks.
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Progressive timing retard Interesting that you happen to mention "There is not box that has a progressive that will pull timing." In previous posts I have said that the LNC-002 replacement will not have any new features. After a bit of feedback from customers and some internal discussion regarding other products we are working on, we have decided to add another feature to the LNC-002 replacement.
The current design already allows progressive timing retard based on boost sensor pressure (by connecting a MAP sensor to the MAP sensor connection) but nitrous customers couldn't really do the same with our device. You could make it progressive versus time using the time based ramp feature but not many customers appear to be using this feature.
Because of this we are adding another mode that allows a 0-5 volt input signal to be read by the device. When the timing retard and rate switches are both set to the "F" position, the device now takes out timing based on the amount of voltage measured at this signal input wire. Basically 4.6 volts will resuly in 15 degrees of timing retard and, as the voltage goes down, so does the amount of timing retard. With this customers should be able to wire up systems that allow progressive and multi-stage nitrous systems to take out more timing as the amount of nitrous increases. Some nitrous systems may even be able to provide an analog voltage output to control this directly.
You could also probably use this feature to make a cockpit adjustable timing retard ****, similar to the old MSD and Crane remote timing retard *****. If enough interest exists in such an option we may even produce this ourselves.
In order to avoid any further delays in the release of the LNC-002 replacement I do not expect any other changes to be made prior to the new product release.
The current design already allows progressive timing retard based on boost sensor pressure (by connecting a MAP sensor to the MAP sensor connection) but nitrous customers couldn't really do the same with our device. You could make it progressive versus time using the time based ramp feature but not many customers appear to be using this feature.
Because of this we are adding another mode that allows a 0-5 volt input signal to be read by the device. When the timing retard and rate switches are both set to the "F" position, the device now takes out timing based on the amount of voltage measured at this signal input wire. Basically 4.6 volts will resuly in 15 degrees of timing retard and, as the voltage goes down, so does the amount of timing retard. With this customers should be able to wire up systems that allow progressive and multi-stage nitrous systems to take out more timing as the amount of nitrous increases. Some nitrous systems may even be able to provide an analog voltage output to control this directly.
You could also probably use this feature to make a cockpit adjustable timing retard ****, similar to the old MSD and Crane remote timing retard *****. If enough interest exists in such an option we may even produce this ourselves.
In order to avoid any further delays in the release of the LNC-002 replacement I do not expect any other changes to be made prior to the new product release.
Interesting that you happen to mention "There is not box that has a progressive that will pull timing." In previous posts I have said that the LNC-002 replacement will not have any new features. After a bit of feedback from customers and some internal discussion regarding other products we are working on, we have decided to add another feature to the LNC-002 replacement.
The current design already allows progressive timing retard based on boost sensor pressure (by connecting a MAP sensor to the MAP sensor connection) but nitrous customers couldn't really do the same with our device. You could make it progressive versus time using the time based ramp feature but not many customers appear to be using this feature.
Because of this we are adding another mode that allows a 0-5 volt input signal to be read by the device. When the timing retard and rate switches are both set to the "F" position, the device now takes out timing based on the amount of voltage measured at this signal input wire. Basically 4.6 volts will resuly in 15 degrees of timing retard and, as the voltage goes down, so does the amount of timing retard. With this customers should be able to wire up systems that allow progressive and multi-stage nitrous systems to take out more timing as the amount of nitrous increases. Some nitrous systems may even be able to provide an analog voltage output to control this directly.
You could also probably use this feature to make a cockpit adjustable timing retard ****, similar to the old MSD and Crane remote timing retard *****. If enough interest exists in such an option we may even produce this ourselves.
In order to avoid any further delays in the release of the LNC-002 replacement I do not expect any other changes to be made prior to the new product release.
The current design already allows progressive timing retard based on boost sensor pressure (by connecting a MAP sensor to the MAP sensor connection) but nitrous customers couldn't really do the same with our device. You could make it progressive versus time using the time based ramp feature but not many customers appear to be using this feature.
Because of this we are adding another mode that allows a 0-5 volt input signal to be read by the device. When the timing retard and rate switches are both set to the "F" position, the device now takes out timing based on the amount of voltage measured at this signal input wire. Basically 4.6 volts will resuly in 15 degrees of timing retard and, as the voltage goes down, so does the amount of timing retard. With this customers should be able to wire up systems that allow progressive and multi-stage nitrous systems to take out more timing as the amount of nitrous increases. Some nitrous systems may even be able to provide an analog voltage output to control this directly.
You could also probably use this feature to make a cockpit adjustable timing retard ****, similar to the old MSD and Crane remote timing retard *****. If enough interest exists in such an option we may even produce this ourselves.
In order to avoid any further delays in the release of the LNC-002 replacement I do not expect any other changes to be made prior to the new product release.
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Pricing and order date Pricing will be the same as the previoius LNC-002 so retail will be $274.95.
We have the circuit boards on order and they should arrive in about 2 weeks. We should have all the other parts available to produce the modules. I will need to get some of the build paperwork done and then the sales department should be able to start accepting orders. That will probably happen some time next week. I will post on this forum when we are accepting orders. I will also post an update on the expected ship date.
We have the circuit boards on order and they should arrive in about 2 weeks. We should have all the other parts available to produce the modules. I will need to get some of the build paperwork done and then the sales department should be able to start accepting orders. That will probably happen some time next week. I will post on this forum when we are accepting orders. I will also post an update on the expected ship date.
You can't compare the harris interface to the lingenfelter box, not even close to the same the quality.
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Cost Thank you for your feedback on the pricing. Our device is made with automotive temperature grade components and has a custom molded glass filled nylon case (same material used to make the LS1 and LS6 intake manifolds). Many of the competing products on the market use ABS plastic or other low temperature plastic housing materials that are not designed for underhood use. Our device provides nitrous or boost pressure based timing retard capability along with a max retard function for building boost off the line in turbocharged vehicle applications. In addition to providing timing retard or device is also a two step. I don't know of any other devices that have all of those features or is made to the specifications of our product. That level of content is why our product costs what it does.