I would just like to add to the "why ligenfelter",

He came in here and answered your questions. That alone IMO adds value to the same parts. This type of service is the kind that is there when you need it after the sale.

+1 For Lingenfelter.

 

That is pretty cool. So you know for a fact that the harris unit is made of ABS plastic? Or are you just guessing it is? Does your device control air/fuel ratios? Does it allow for the use of a dry plate or dry direct port?

You have a point there, Harris customer service is the worst I've ever dealt with. They never answer their phones, EVER. The only support I've gotten from them is via email and even then I always receive a brief minimalist reply.

 

I have used and seen both products in person and I can't for sure what the harris interface is made out of but I can without a doubt it is not made to the same quality the lingenfelter unit is. Thats not saying the interface wont work Im just saying saying your not comparing apples to apples. Each product has it place but I think they are for different markets.
You also can't beat lingentfelters customer service, its top notch.

 

"So you know for a fact that the harris unit is made of ABS plastic?"
I did not say the Harris device is made of ABS plastic. I was responding to the general statement you had made that said:
“That's a steep price compared to what else is out there and the option of doing the resistor mod.”
I stated some devices from other manufacturers (no names given) do use ABS and other types of lower temperature plastic housings and that our housing is made of glass filled Nylon.

I have seen these other materials melt and deform in vehicles. We tested many of the same standard generic electronic enclosures when we were doing our initial product development and that is why we decided to make custom enclosures for our underhood electronic products. We also fully encapsulate the circuit boards of our electronic products to further improve durability, especially in high vibration and high humidity environments. Again, I am not commenting on what other particular companies do or do not do, just stating what we at LPE do to help add to the durability and capabilities of our products.

"Does your device control air/fuel ratios?"
I am not sure if this is a serious question or a rhetorical one. I will assume it is a real question. No our device does not control the air fuel ratio. Our device is not connected to anything that can be used to modify fuel related variables. It can retard timing and function as a 2-step on dry plate, wet or direct port nitrous systems (or turbocharger systems or NA engines too).

Regarding the customer service comments, we try to do the best we can to provide accurate and timely information to our customers. I am not familiar with nor would I feel comfortable commenting on the customer service of other companies.

 

No I'm just here to troll...

JK yes its a serious question, I mention these features because the harris interface offers these.

 

definitely ordering one. I need a controller but feel that other units are inferior or just overpriced for what you get.

 

Let me know when you are ready Chad. Ill make sure you are kept up to date and get the part on time.

 

I have a brand new Harris timing puller for sale. Went SD tune so I cannot use it.

 

Graham, I am ready whenever it becomes available. I got my
Kit just before I left Texas, would like to put it in the car but need to pull timing before usin it. Also, what sideband you suggest using? I was looking at the FAST one with the digital screen.

 

Semper Fi 08dumbdumb, I was an 0861 with 1/10 and 5/10.

 

Haha ooh rah

 

Glad to hear. I will keep you informed.

I don't have experience with that many wideband's honestly. I have used the LM1 and LC1 on a lot of cars. The LM1 is a ugly but works great if you want to be able to use it on multiple cars or just remove it once the tune is done.

The NGK unit works well and their customer service is great. Brandon @ NGK is a great guy to deal with. If you would like his number Shoot me a PM and I will send it too you. He is a legit car guy and very knowledgeable.

 

NGK AFX with NTK sensor, As close to Lab grade as you will get for under $1000.

 

I think any of the widebands connected through serial cables are going to the most accurate. Any wideband is as only good as its connection to its data logger.

 

I'm not trying to connect with a data logger, just need to monitor A/F ratio, accurately when running nitrous and for every day driving.

 

Are you going to hook it up to efi or hp tuners?

 

nope, thats why I was looking at the one from FAST, it has a screen.

 

I have the dual wideband from fast in my camaro and its ok but I have had it go out twice but fast fixed it. If your not going to be data logging then there really isnt any reason for a wideband in the car, at part throttle the o2 keep the a/f at 14.7 and at wot throttle you will have a hard time reading a wideband and driving.

 

Graham, Im going to send you a PM with my email, would be easier to contact me now that I am back at work. Going to need a few more things than the timing controller, so I'll let you know when the time comes.

 

Gunrock. I have briefly used Fast wideband I would like to sale if you decide you want a fast. I took it in trade for some tuning work I did.

I have a FJO I use in my car. Innovate is really popular but I have never had one but alot of our customers do.

Dave