Am i ready for 200?
Am i ready for 200? Current parts list:
78mm Plate kit
LNC-002
KB BAP
NO lean shut down on wide band
BR7ef plugs @ gapped at 32
Car is 03 Z06. Obviously I will do the dyno tune, just looking to see if I have the necessary hardware. Do I need to add to or get rid of something?
78mm Plate kit
LNC-002
KB BAP
NO lean shut down on wide band
BR7ef plugs @ gapped at 32
Car is 03 Z06. Obviously I will do the dyno tune, just looking to see if I have the necessary hardware. Do I need to add to or get rid of something?
More details on the car...
Auto or Manual?
Do you have a window switch?
How are you going to control bottle pressure?
Do you have the ability to adjust timing at the track?
Do you have a purge?
BTW - Dyno nitrous tunes are not the safest way to tune a car....
Auto or Manual?
Do you have a window switch?
How are you going to control bottle pressure?
Do you have the ability to adjust timing at the track?
Do you have a purge?
BTW - Dyno nitrous tunes are not the safest way to tune a car....
yes, window switch...progressive (dont use) and TPS activation
pressure with a bottle heater
yes, as much as I can adjust with an LNC-002
yes, has a purge.
will be reading plugs once i get it close. just not going to come out of the box on 200 while using swag on timing and fuel. How much timing are you pulling on your setup?
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on the 300 shot I pull 15 degrees from my NA of 30.
Sounds to me you have pretty much everything covered. Just be careful with the dyno tune vs track tune. I have seen cars with a solid/safe 4sec 200 shot pull that the tuner thought was great then first pass on the actual 10-11 sec track pull the motor let go.
Honestly, I would probably even put a #8 plug in the car just to open the tuning window.
btw- what gas?
Sounds to me you have pretty much everything covered. Just be careful with the dyno tune vs track tune. I have seen cars with a solid/safe 4sec 200 shot pull that the tuner thought was great then first pass on the actual 10-11 sec track pull the motor let go.
Honestly, I would probably even put a #8 plug in the car just to open the tuning window.
btw- what gas?
on the 300 shot I pull 15 degrees from my NA of 30.
Sounds to me you have pretty much everything covered. Just be careful with the dyno tune vs track tune. I have seen cars with a solid/safe 4sec 200 shot pull that the tuner thought was great then first pass on the actual 10-11 sec track pull the motor let go.
Honestly, I would probably even put a #8 plug in the car just to open the tuning window.
btw- what gas?
Sounds to me you have pretty much everything covered. Just be careful with the dyno tune vs track tune. I have seen cars with a solid/safe 4sec 200 shot pull that the tuner thought was great then first pass on the actual 10-11 sec track pull the motor let go.
Honestly, I would probably even put a #8 plug in the car just to open the tuning window.
btw- what gas?
93 octane.
Give the guys at Nitrous Outlet a call on Monday, they will be able to keep you safe and run good.
Or do a ton of research on tuning and reading plugs like I did. Shoot me a pm when you get more info and I will be glad to share what i know.
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carter01: you got a picture of one of those "max power" plugs. Would be interested to see one. pm if you get a chance.
to the op:
A few facts: I ran a 125 NXEXPRESS MAF shot on a stock setup 02Z. But that was only about 525hp@engine. 405 + 125. Used a bottle heater at the time. 127-128 trap speeds
Later, after upgrading the engine, I found out where the fuel system bails out. At 600rwhp, fuel pressure as measured was dropping off using a 75 shot on my current setup. IMHO, the C5Z is good to 525-maybe550rwhp.
After that its a guess. Make sure and change the fuel filter as a precaution.
I personally don't think you should try a 200 shot. However, since you are NOT using a NANO, the AFR may richen up at the end of the run anyway and protect you. With a 200 shot you are in the low 500s rwhp, just not sure about the fuel system.
to the op:
A few facts: I ran a 125 NXEXPRESS MAF shot on a stock setup 02Z. But that was only about 525hp@engine. 405 + 125. Used a bottle heater at the time. 127-128 trap speeds
Later, after upgrading the engine, I found out where the fuel system bails out. At 600rwhp, fuel pressure as measured was dropping off using a 75 shot on my current setup. IMHO, the C5Z is good to 525-maybe550rwhp.
After that its a guess. Make sure and change the fuel filter as a precaution.
I personally don't think you should try a 200 shot. However, since you are NOT using a NANO, the AFR may richen up at the end of the run anyway and protect you. With a 200 shot you are in the low 500s rwhp, just not sure about the fuel system.
carter01: you got a picture of one of those "max power" plugs. Would be interested to see one. pm if you get a chance.
to the op:
A few facts: I ran a 125 NXEXPRESS MAF shot on a stock setup 02Z. But that was only about 525hp@engine. 405 + 125. Used a bottle heater at the time. 127-128 trap speeds
Later, after upgrading the engine, I found out where the fuel system bails out. At 600rwhp, fuel pressure as measured was dropping off using a 75 shot on my current setup. IMHO, the C5Z is good to 525-maybe550rwhp.
After that its a guess. Make sure and change the fuel filter as a precaution.
I personally don't think you should try a 200 shot. However, since you are NOT using a NANO, the AFR may richen up at the end of the run anyway and protect you. With a 200 shot you are in the low 500s rwhp, just not sure about the fuel system.
to the op:
A few facts: I ran a 125 NXEXPRESS MAF shot on a stock setup 02Z. But that was only about 525hp@engine. 405 + 125. Used a bottle heater at the time. 127-128 trap speeds
Later, after upgrading the engine, I found out where the fuel system bails out. At 600rwhp, fuel pressure as measured was dropping off using a 75 shot on my current setup. IMHO, the C5Z is good to 525-maybe550rwhp.
After that its a guess. Make sure and change the fuel filter as a precaution.
I personally don't think you should try a 200 shot. However, since you are NOT using a NANO, the AFR may richen up at the end of the run anyway and protect you. With a 200 shot you are in the low 500s rwhp, just not sure about the fuel system.
and what do you mean "dropping off"? What was the pressures you were seeing?
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hmm. not sure im tracking you math. car made 386rwhp...plus 200 on that, should put me at almost 600rwhp. It sounds like the biggest concern is the fuel not keeping up... what do i need to do to avoid this? Is the boosta pump not enough? Bigger injectors? Stand alone... ?
and what do you mean "dropping off"? What was the pressures you were seeing?
and what do you mean "dropping off"? What was the pressures you were seeing?
386rwhp + 200+/- rwhp or ~586rwhp. My car was 600rwhp w/75 shot and I was making 522. We were both relatively about the same rwhp.
Fuel pressure was consistently dropping off as RPMs were building up at the max power point around 6300rpm. I believe drop was < 5psi.
Fuel pump, line size, whatever. Something wasn't making it.
The real fix is a Nitrous Outlet remote fuel system shown in picture to passenger's side of air filter. (Sorry Graham, I painted it flat black--is a pretty aluminum when new). has w/built in regulator. I believe it will support up to 800hp of nitrous. Some of the gear heads in here might know.
boost a pump = line size limit at some point. bigger injectors won't matter since the plate is fueling the engine w/nitrous supported fuel. If you had a dry system, then bigger inj an option.
Respecting your desire to hit it w/the 200, just trying to help a brotha out.
sorry, I mixed up rwhp and fwhp and didn't notice the 386 you were putting out. So you in theory would be putting down:
386rwhp + 200+/- rwhp or ~586rwhp. My car was 600rwhp w/75 shot and I was making 522. We were both relatively about the same rwhp.
Fuel pressure was consistently dropping off as RPMs were building up at the max power point around 6300rpm. I believe drop was < 5psi.
Fuel pump, line size, whatever. Something wasn't making it.
The real fix is a Nitrous Outlet remote fuel system shown in picture to passenger's side of air filter. (Sorry Graham, I painted it flat black--is a pretty aluminum when new). has w/built in regulator. I believe it will support up to 800hp of nitrous. Some of the gear heads in here might know.
boost a pump = line size limit at some point. bigger injectors won't matter since the plate is fueling the engine w/nitrous supported fuel. If you had a dry system, then bigger inj an option.
Respecting your desire to hit it w/the 200, just trying to help a brotha out.
386rwhp + 200+/- rwhp or ~586rwhp. My car was 600rwhp w/75 shot and I was making 522. We were both relatively about the same rwhp.
Fuel pressure was consistently dropping off as RPMs were building up at the max power point around 6300rpm. I believe drop was < 5psi.
Fuel pump, line size, whatever. Something wasn't making it.
The real fix is a Nitrous Outlet remote fuel system shown in picture to passenger's side of air filter. (Sorry Graham, I painted it flat black--is a pretty aluminum when new). has w/built in regulator. I believe it will support up to 800hp of nitrous. Some of the gear heads in here might know.
boost a pump = line size limit at some point. bigger injectors won't matter since the plate is fueling the engine w/nitrous supported fuel. If you had a dry system, then bigger inj an option.
Respecting your desire to hit it w/the 200, just trying to help a brotha out.
No worries... I totally am here to have people be critical. Id rather have and not need the standalone, than need it and not have it. I have been looking for one anyhow (I will kill this LS6 at some point, im sure
).