Fbodyjunkie06

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I don't mind stirring the pot

Reference this thread for your answers.https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...00-shot-4.html

Some very very very interesting numbers in there...choose what you want to believe wisely.

thedudeZ

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lol good man! I'm a great big ***** on the timing and I try not to get a false sense of security from the e85.

Fbodyjunkie06

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Well I am from the lean is mean low timing camp myself.

I don't like running a rich afr and covering it up with timing.

That's just myself though.

Like I said choose wisely what you want to believe, but as I've learned not to bash someone for doing it their way.

I just like to present why I think certain ways are better and hope people take to my ideas and procedures.

WheelsUp84z

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i'd rather just build something less expensive, and run the 6.0 index. If I had kept the other motor, I would have just put an 88 on it and ran Ultimate street....more turbo, less weight.

Fbodyjunkie06

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You mean street race?

Ultimate limits turbo's to 80mm.

BTW found out tonight that my nitrous pressure gauge is reading 200-250psi lower than what I thought.

So when I thought I was at 950-1000psi it was really only 700-750 at best. No wonder my car isn't picking up like I thought it should!!! We think (lol I know that sounds really bad and it is bad) we had it at 800-850 judging by how it left went to the 330' hard and then the mph and e.t. just fell off.

I have another gauge here at the house that I thought was broken and that it was reading too low, well now I know it was right this whole time!!!

I am an inexperienced nitrous idiot. Still went 6.13@112 with a 1.35 60' and 3.93 330'. 200 shot. Wait till I get this good pressure gauge on here. Noyzee I'm coming for you

Now I will say the people I had with me tonight have been using nitrous for 10+ years and are class racers and do this every weekend. We went off temperature of the bottle and judged the psi that way since the good gauge was at home as I thought it was broken.

brett walker

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Congrats Martin, 6.13 is rolling out

Fbodyjunkie06

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Thanks brett.

With the right bottle pressure I think it will go 116-117. It picked up 4mph just actually having half way right bottle pressure.

camscam02

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you need a set up like this. Never ever trust the little bottle gauges. We use temp and confirm with our big gage. Also we use a Kevin Neal water bath to heat our bottles.

WheelsUp84z

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U/S is 88mm and you get weight breaks for 80mm or smaller unless those are outdated rules. Glad to hear you're chopping down the ET's on your setup. Ticks cam only car went 5.99 on a 250 shot, I think once you get your bottle pressure issue addressed you should be there with the 200 shot.

Fbodyjunkie06

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Yea I learned last night that 87* is 1000psi. We tried to get it there in the pits but we really had no clue just going off experience, I'm sure it was still off. I think we had it close judging by how much more volume I had in my purge cloud. Cam what is the price on that quarter turn valve and gauge? Or did you get the valve at a hardware store? Can you tell me what parts I'd need for that?

The other problem we had was once we started pulling 12 degrees of timing for this shot it didn't have enough *** to get on the window switch off the converter. Pulling 8 it'd hit 4400 window easily, pulling 12 it didn't want to flash to but 4250. So instead of pulling timing from the AFR correction table from 4000 up we did it from 4400 and up. I'm thinking me and my buddy Jon who does my HPT stuff and makes the changes for me need to instead of pulling it from that table, that we need to make a our own timing table in the high octane table. Judging by my plugs I have room to add a degree maybe a degree and a half which I might do. If I had a 93 jet and a 50 fuel jet I wouldn't worry about it I'd just throw those in there to make up for it. I'm running more 110 than 93 now in my fuel too.

Say we are pulling 12* for the tune up, instead of having it all out at 4400, we need to only have 2-4* out and then pull say 8* out at 4800 and the full 12* by 5200 where the car starts to move on this tune-up. Our track has been on kill lately and sticky as hell, I walked it last night and it nearly pulled my shoes off in the groove and starting line.

I was worried about traction so I wanted to pull it low and was worried about having too much timing in it. Now that I am learning the set-up, reading the plugs I think we can basically throw the sink at it, and with my suspension working really well now it will hook it. It was pulling nice little 1' power wheelies about 30' out and booking to the 330. Some more timing, good 1000psi bottle pressure and I think I can click off a 3.8x 330' maybe even a 3.70 You guys know what that means if it happens

Pete91

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You guys really make this a lot of fun. Wish I had the money for a tubular k, a arms, vfn hood and some drag brakes all around. I don't even have a cage yet. I'm gonna just bite the bullet and order me up a converter from fti. Martin maybe if I don't blow this thing up by the fall we could get together at an atco rental or something for the cool air and you could show me some stuff.

Fbodyjunkie06

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I need some A-arms, that's the only thing you mentioned I don't have.

If you ever need some help I can give you my number and some pointers. Always here to help. Atco is a long long way away!!!

camscam02

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The valve we got lucky with and got from some local store, its not made for the high pressure but we tightened a couple things up and made it seal and we haven't had a problem yet. The gage is obviously Steves and you can get a 1/4 turn from a ton of suppliers as well. Youll need an intermediate line to get from bottle to gage and a couple an fittings to make your set up work. I love my setup. So nice. I need to shorten up my main feed line so I waste less nitrous after purging everything out after the pass but right now I think we use about 2.7 lbs from initial opening, purging, pass, and purge out the rest. 1/4 mile hit

As far as timing I have all my timing out by 5600 and start my ramp from like 30ish degrees. set the two 2 step below where the converter stalls to a let her rip

Fbodyjunkie06

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Thanks cam when it went 1.31 on the small jet it had 30 degrees in it up till 4000 where we pulled 9* from for the kit all the way to redline. Two step at 3300 window activation at 4400, it really wanted and liked the flash to plant the tire. We tried the same thing and pulled 3* more for the 82n and it just wouldn't hit the window with 16* in it because we took it from 30* in the main table to 27* and 25* in some spots. We tried taking the window from 4400 to 4300 and then 4200 but it still wouldn't go but 1.35 60' even pulling the 12* from 4400 and up and the window at 4200.

We are going to try 27* at 3600, 25* at 4000, 23* at 4400rpm, 20* at 4800 19* at 5200 18* at 5600rpm and 16* from 6000rpm to redline.

I'm going to set the window activation at 3700-4000rpm and two step at 3100-3200. My two step is so old that if I try to set it at 3000 it comes on whenever I try to use the transbrake to back up in reverse at 1000rpm or in 1st with the brake at 1000rpm. It does it at 2000 and 4000rpm setting also. If I set it to 2100, 3100, or 4100 it works fine. Buddy says his harlan shift light works exactly the same lol, damn harlan.

Noyzee

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couple years back i had a good back fire with 2 step at 3000 it only happened once, but after that i went to 3200 lol

Fbodyjunkie06

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Harlan two step?

I've found it isn't anywhere near a soft touch limiter like my MSD unit was.

If I set it at 3200 it flucuates up to 3500rpm sometimes. It's louder and much more aggressive than any LPE 2 step I have heard or MSD.

Old skool

Cam is that -8 line up to the gauge and then -6 to the nitrous noid? -4 to the plate?

Noyzee

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no, its the synergy one if i remember correctly. its pretty close, when i log a run it sits within 100 rpm of set point which is pretty good.

camscam02

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It's a -6 line to the noid and 4 to the plate on fuel and nitrous

ATVracr

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Let it spray on the TB for a second, it will leave hard then !!

Fbodyjunkie06

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Yea right!