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Old May 2, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Pull 3 degrees and check the plugs. If there is no timing mark or it is at the tip add it back in a degree at a time until there is a timing mark or until the car slows down.

If it speeds up from the 3 degrees being pulled then you know what it wanted even if the plug shows you have more lead to play with timing wise. A lot of the old nitrous guys will tell you don't chase the timing mark as long as it is in a comfortable region(before the bend).
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Old May 3, 2012 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by camscam02
call your local oriellys (used to be Kragen), give them NGK 1049 they are usually $1.70ish and usually stock them in a warehouse in dixon so they should be there next day. Thats what we usually do
roger that. more savings for nitrous.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Pull 3 degrees and check the plugs. If there is no timing mark or it is at the tip add it back in a degree at a time until there is a timing mark or until the car slows down.

If it speeds up from the 3 degrees being pulled then you know what it wanted even if the plug shows you have more lead to play with timing wise. A lot of the old nitrous guys will tell you don't chase the timing mark as long as it is in a comfortable region(before the bend).
ok ill play around with it, thanks for your advice.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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Lean is mean and to run safe while running lean you need to be cautious and lighter handed on your timing and a cold plug.

Your engine will thank you.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Lean is mean and to run safe while running lean you need to be cautious and lighter handed on your timing and a cold plug.

Your engine will thank you.
thanks man! im going to the track on sunday so im going to try 19 degrees total on 62n 33f jets. it should be around 12.4-12.5 afr and of course im going to read the plugs.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by n2ols1cam
thanks man! im going to the track on sunday so im going to try 19 degrees total on 62n 33f jets. it should be around 12.4-12.5 afr and of course im going to read the plugs.
That sounds very close to where I think I will end up with my tune-up for my 62n jet.

B8EFS?

I think with the information you have gathered and what you have just said you will do just fine.
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Old May 3, 2012 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
That sounds very close to where I think I will end up with my tune-up for my 62n jet.

B8EFS?

I think with the information you have gathered and what you have just said you will do just fine.
I actually have a B9EFS just to be safe.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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I actually have a B9EFS just to be safe.
Sounds good to me!
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New plug pictures.

62N 38F 20 degrees total timing BR7EF plug gapped at .030 50/50 sunoco 93/110.

Here is what I see. Timing mark on the tip, starting to show good heat on the tip also.

I think the motor will/would run best like this. Although it did take 3 passes on this set of plugs to get this heat and timing mark to show.

AFR was 11.9-12.0.

I was more worried about getting the car to hook than the tune-up yesterday since the plugs looked pretty decent.

Once I get it to hook, I am going to start leaning it out. I'm pretty sure once I lean it out it won't take 3 passes to show enough heat to read the strap. Porcelain was nice and white with a slight light green(fuel color) ring at the base, very very faint.

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Old May 11, 2012 | 11:38 AM
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beautiful hands man......eh hem i mean plugs
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Old May 11, 2012 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 10secZ28
beautiful hands man......eh hem i mean plugs
Yea yea I knew there would be some comments about the nails.

Even my mom knows how to read a nitrous plug!
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Old May 11, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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[QUOTE=Fbodyjunkie06;16299771]New plug pictures.

I would have thought a 62/38 mix would be VERY rich too
plugs hard to discern without porcelain view, but still whats up with a check mark by Rachel's name? : )
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
New plug pictures.

I would have thought a 62/38 mix would be VERY rich too
plugs hard to discern without porcelain view, but still whats up with a check mark by Rachel's name? : )
I think that is a co-worker of my mothers and that they went to eat lunch together.

I'm hoping these NGK's are easier to cut open than those ******* autolites.

I'll try a little later.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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ahhh...more testing. Ok, fuel jet is finally dialed!!!!!!!!!! for the given jetting.
Now, I need to go back out and turn up the spark a little.

stay tuned...
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Still rich but its getting closer.
I'd pull another 1* out when you start leaning it out.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Still rich but its getting closer.
I'd pull another 1* out when you start leaning it out.
Muah?
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Old May 29, 2012 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Muah?
Pics above are still pretty rich, I can tell you that before you even cut them open.

See black soot(sp) around the ring.... RICH.

So ya you still have a little ways to go on the fuel as you do that the heat on the strap will start to come also.

Take it slow.
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Just noticed something this weekend.

When running N/A the AFR is very flat. Car was pulling easy 10.8s in 90F+ temps. On nitrous it starts around 11.5 AFR and then goes rich (almost linear) towards 6800rpm.

In any case, N2O solenoid has been replaced w/25amp Nitrous Outlet piece.
I think the progressive may have abused it a little and also the one on there was an older style solenoid.

wish me luck for this weekend cuz its testing time again. : )
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 01:41 AM
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removed outdated NX Express solenoid, added Nitrous Outlet Solenoid.
Increased fuel jetting by 2 jet sizes. It wants more fuel. Just ran out of time tonite.

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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Pics above are still pretty rich, I can tell you that before you even cut them open.

See black soot(sp) around the ring.... RICH.

So ya you still have a little ways to go on the fuel as you do that the heat on the strap will start to come also.

Take it slow.
Just saw this. Thanks Wayne. After finding out my bottle pressure was way too low due to the broken shitty gauge on a cheap bottle I bought I found out what was making it so rich. I had a damn 82/40 jet combo on 58psi and the plugs still looked rich and I figured that tune-up would be dead on the money. After talking with camscam he ran/runs the same tune up on a 82n with my fuel pressure.

Should I leave it alone tune-up wise (82n/40f 58psi) with the correct(900-950) bottle pressure and see what it does and go from there?

Or would you pull one more degree still and go from there. I'm only at 16* total timing on the 82/40 tune-up and a pretty heavy mix of 110/93 with almost all of it being 110. I may start running it solely on 110 alone. It's 7.00 a gallon and I only use 2-3 gallons a session.
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