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Old 05-23-2012, 03:39 PM
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Default How much 110 should i mix into my tank?

Planning on spraying 175-200 (most likely a 200) with a stand alone.
I was advised to mix in some 110 into my tank when I go to the track for extra insurance.

Say if my tank is exactly at the 1/4 mark, how many gallons should i put?

Will my existing updated nitrous tune (93 octane w/ stand alone) be sufficient if I add that into my tank at the track?

Will that also benefit my all motor pass? for ***** and gigs
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As much as you can afford.
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Originally Posted by xFLG KING PIN
As much as you can afford.
so basically top off?
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Just put the 110 in the standalone and you will be fine. If you want the extra insurance just run 93 and 110 50/50 and you will be golden.
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Don't top it off.

I usually let it get in between the 1/4 mark and empty mark then put a gallon of 93 in and 3-4 gallons of 110 in.

That usually gets me in between a 1/4 and a half of a tank.

I'd do that if you're that worried about it, but if I were you I would just run 114 or C16 in the stand alone with solely 93 in the tank.

When I build my stand a lone I plan on using either renegade pro nitrous 120 in the stand alone and 93 in the tank or VP N20 in the stand a lone and 93 in the tank.
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thx for the help guys

does any brand really matter?
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Originally Posted by LeanPocket
thx for the help guys

does any brand really matter?
The guys that work for the companies that make the fuel will say yes.

Us as racers can't tell a difference.

I have talked to people that switched from Sunoco to VP, or VP to Renegade, or Rockett to Sunoco and as long as they were using the same octane fuel with the same stoich ratings there was no tune-up difference.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
The guys that work for the companies that make the fuel will say yes.

Us as racers can't tell a difference.

I have talked to people that switched from Sunoco to VP, or VP to Renegade, or Rockett to Sunoco and as long as they were using the same octane fuel with the same stoich ratings there was no tune-up difference.
Would i have to adjust my nitrous tune in order to run race fuel in the tank (if it was already tuned to be used with a stand alone)
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Originally Posted by LeanPocket
Would i have to adjust my nitrous tune in order to run race fuel in the tank (if it was already tuned to be used with a stand alone)
What kind of race fuel? C10 and C12 are just about as close as you can get to the same stoich as pump gas, C14 also.
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Originally Posted by LeanPocket

Will that also benefit my all motor pass? for ***** and gigs
No, it will not be a benefit.
Raising the octane level from what the engine was tuned on will richen the A/F ratio.
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
No, it will not be a benefit.
Raising the octane level from what the engine was tuned on will richen the A/F ratio.
Only if the stoich values and Sg are radically different.

But no it won't be a benefit.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Only if the stoich values and Sg are radically different.

But no it won't be a benefit.
I'm not referring to any other fuels then what the OP asked about.
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
I'm not referring to any other fuels then what the OP asked about.
If they both are close to the same Sg and stoich, (hundreths off) how could it get richer? Slower burning?
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
If they both are close to the same Sg and stoich, (hundreths off) how
Why do you want to draw conclusions from information like this which is bench racing instead of accually experiencing it 1st hand and having real world information instead of theories?

I'll be more then happy to discuss that you took a car with a pump gas tune in it and switched over to 110 and ran the car. That's 1st hand exprience worth discussing.

Happy Holidays.

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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
Why do you want to draw conclusions from information like this which is bench racing instead of accually experiencing it 1st hand and having real world information instead of theories?

I'll be more then happy to discuss that you took a car with a pump gas tune in it and switched over to 110 and ran the car. That's 1st hand exprience worth discussing.

Happy Holidays.
Uhh I run 110 with my 93 at the track all the time, how is that not real world?

Do you not read? Or do you draw conclusions on blind faith?

Again just so you can see this, I run my car on 110 at the track and 93 on the street. The stoich is the same it burns at the same rate, how will it richen it up?

I run in OLSD and I tune my own car with my friend punching the keys to what I tell him to do while I am changing plugs, tire pressure, suspension etc. My tune never changes. I don't know how much more real world you want.

Do you think I just talk out of my *** without any experience to the things I mention or do you just assume that too? I'm really getting sick of this **** that people assume because they have a faster car they automatically know more than the next guy.
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Do you think I just talk out of my *** without any experience to the things I mention
YES.
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
YES.
So once again you assumed and were wrong that I do know what I am talking about and run 110 and 93 back and forth, mixed all the time. I did it in my turbo car I do it in my nitrous car now. I don't see you offering your expertise here. The only thing you're doing here is trying to make a point that you have a problem with me trying to be as helpful as I can to anyone that asks a question when I have experienced first hand real world.

Tell me this how would you know that I don't know this?

Edited and sorry OP. Just trying to give you my first hand knowledge of 110 and 93. Been using it for over a year and a half now like that.

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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
I don't see you offering
Post #10 I offered to the OP.

My appologies to the OP. I had no idea my 1st post would turn out like this.

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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
No, it will not be a benefit.
Raising the octane level from what the engine was tuned on will richen the A/F ratio.

X2 ive seen it first hand on the dyno
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Originally Posted by SSPerformance
X2 ive seen it first hand on the dyno
X3 I've always had to re-tune.

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