If the N2O system did happen to fail, would GM be able to tell that it was do to N2O? Just wondering because I'm still under warranty until 2005.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SStolen:
<strong>If the N2O system did happen to fail, would GM be able to tell that it was do to N2O? Just wondering because I'm still under warranty until 2005.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just pull everything off and take it up there and see what they say bro.

 

Take the system completely off and change the oil.If it barely runs,change the oil twice.They can do an oil check and find that you ran Nitrous.

 

I've also read that runing a bottle of the fuel injector/system cleaner through helps remove any evidence also. Assuming it can still run on it's own. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Drop some new stock plugs in there too.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris Spiess:
<strong>Drop some new stock plugs in there too.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">New plugs might look fishy if the car does not run.

(Perfect ... never fired plug in a in a worn engine) If the car still drives that may work.

<small>[ June 03, 2002, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Rpm2800 ]</small>

 

True...then maybe save a nicely worn in set of plugs to drop in. I think thats a great idea.

 

well if the plugs are fried just break a valvespring, I fried all the plugs on my car when I broke a valvespring...

Theres ways to get around the system.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

Not to be a jackass or anything, but isn't this a bit snakey? I mean when I blew up my 10 bolt with my H/C package and SPEC clutch at 20,000 miles I didn't expect GM to pay for it. When we start doing serious mods to our cars, how can you expect GM to pay for it. I read all these posts about people getting ticked off at GM because their trans blew or they melted a piston or miss shifted and bent 3 pushrods and bent a valve. i mean come on guys if you made a product and sold it, you would garauntee it wouldn't you? BUT if that someone went and started changing what you designed to be a good reliable product you would tell them to pound salt about a warranty. When we mod these cars, any cars, FORDs, GMs, DODGE the warranties for the drivetrains go out the window with severe modifications. But hey good luck!

 

I somewhat agree.

An automobile is a group of complex systems working in harmony (most of the time). Usually these systems work pretty well for over 100k miles. When you start fudging around with one part of the system, it produces extra strain on other parts, parts that weren't designed for the strain. And its not GM's fault, its your fault for putting them under that additional strain. If GM wanted you to run nitrous, the car would have came with a bottle bracket. If they wanted you to run a blower, it would have came with one like the GTP does. Remember that nitrous (and the torque it generates) is going to reduce the life of the clutch (or automatic tranny), the rear axle, and possibly the driveshaft if you use slicks. Its not just an engine thing.

You bought a GM car, but you're not sponsered by GM like Warren Johnson and Kevin Harvick, so dont expect GM to pay for it when you blow something up because you're racing it.

I do think they should come with better springs and pushrods though....

J.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 99MONGOOSE:
<strong>Not to be a jackass or anything, but isn't this a bit snakey? I mean when I blew up my 10 bolt with my H/C package and SPEC clutch at 20,000 miles I didn't expect GM to pay for it. When we start doing serious mods to our cars, how can you expect GM to pay for it. I read all these posts about people getting ticked off at GM because their trans blew or they melted a piston or miss shifted and bent 3 pushrods and bent a valve. i mean come on guys if you made a product and sold it, you would garauntee it wouldn't you? BUT if that someone went and started changing what you designed to be a good reliable product you would tell them to pound salt about a warranty. When we mod these cars, any cars, FORDs, GMs, DODGE the warranties for the drivetrains go out the window with severe modifications. But hey good luck!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree 100%. I just made my comment in response to the person who suggested new plugs. But i probably should have kept it since i don't agree with things like this, and my comment could seem like I was trying to help or him get over or support this.

I actually kinda hate when i see post like this. If you spray it I think you should fix it yourself. If it breaks from normal driving or something within the "limits" of suggested use .... then get them to fix it.

Good to see some still believe in honesty and responsibility... And not always trying to "get over".

I agree with you. If you spray and break a stock motor you should pay for it.

 

If you totally blew the motor directly due to nitrous then I agree. But taking it in for other warranty related items not associated with nitrous use its still a good idea to play it safe and take steps to protect yourself from overzeolous dealers that try to void a warranty at the first sight of drag radials.

 

Another good idea is to save the stock plugs to put back in if something goes wrong, you need to use a colder plug with the N2O anyhow.

 

The idea about stock used plugs was pretty sharp though <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

J.

 

Hey J. about your better springs and pushrods. The samething applies. If GM wanted you to rev past 6200 RPM, then the would have put in the LS6 springs and pushrods. So that throws your whole spew out too.

Alot of us dont have the $5k just to throw at something to be done with if it breaks. These cars are over priced as it is, so you have to get something. If they arent over priced then why does the value drop ~$5k as soon as you drive it off the lot? We all want to go fast, but speed is directly realted to money, the more $$$ you have the faster you go.

Back to the regular question. Keep a set of old plugs and reinstall them, take the kit off, hide any of its presence and change the oil a couple times. I would also run some top end cleaner through the motor to get the deposits off the tops of the pistons. They should be able to trace the N2O burnt there.

 

I just put the springs and pushrods thing in because there seem to be a lot of cases of bent pushrods on stock engine cars. GM will replace your pushrods once under warrenty, but if they were a bit stronger to start with, maybe they wouldn't have to replace as many? Preventive maintence type thing.

J.