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Old 12-22-2012, 12:17 PM
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We have plans to send the car to Madman for front suspension, scaling, and 8 point cage in next few months hopefully. Not real comfortable making 1/4 passes at the speeds it will be capable of in the 1/4 once we do gear swap.
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Originally Posted by TeEnAgE pHeNoM
Decided to head to the dragstrip on a cold night but the track was prepped great to my surprise. No changes other than upping the shot to an .088 jet.

.088 jet
.044 fuel jet
16 degrees of total spark
That's around a 300 shot. Is your 4l60e holding up well after that? I'm still on a built 4l60e as well.

What size are you restalling the converter too? I figured the ss3600 was perfect for the spray. I'm on a ss4000 which may be too big for the large shots judging by my mph.
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Originally Posted by shortdog
That's around a 300 shot.
Actually, that should be around 250 or slightly less.
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^Negative, but we can agree to disagree.

Nitrous jet size ratings can be very misleading from different companies, which will have a lot of people thinking they're making a lot more power than what's advertised, so others and I have found that the robietherobot.com calculator and other similar online calculators to be pretty accurate. Fuel jetting is a different story.

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Originally Posted by shortdog
That's around a 300 shot. Is your 4l60e holding up well after that? I'm still on a built 4l60e as well.

What size are you restalling the converter too? I figured the ss3600 was perfect for the spray. I'm on a ss4000 which may be too big for the large shots judging by my mph.
Nitrous Outlet Im sure has flowed their plates and have the jetting spot on for the rating. .088 jet is rated at 250 for the NO plate. 300 would be a .093 jet which i have also. Yes we are running a Rossler Terminator III , with every option he offers. Car weighs 3500+ lbs and trans has about 50-60 1/8 mile passes spraying 175-250 and about 15-20 motor passes and still works like a charm. Going to send the converter to PTC and let them rework it based on specs of our combo that I will provide them. The problem with the SS series is the STR is a little to aggressive with nitrous especially the bigger shots and makes it really tough to get the car hooked consistently. As far as effeciency the 3600 was fine up to 200 but it is blowing through the converter some on the 250.
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Originally Posted by shortdog
^Negative, but we can agree to disagree.

Nitrous jet size ratings can be very misleading from different companies, which will have a lot of people thinking they're making a lot more power than what's advertised, so others and I have found that the robietherobot.com calculator and other similar online calculators to be pretty accurate. Fuel jetting is a different story.
He runs a Nitrous Outlet system. And I have seen posts from Chris of Nitrous Outlet post that an 88n jet with their single jet system is a 250 tune. But hey, maybe he doesn't know about robbie the robot......

Here is a link:
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...95&postcount=1
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An .088 jet is an .088 jet (or whatever size yet), regardless who made it and what they rate it at. The orifice size is the same.

Killer 5.3, I'm assuming you and Teenage Phenom are working on the same car?
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Originally Posted by shortdog
An .088 jet is an .088 jet (or whatever size yet), regardless who made it and what they rate it at. The orifice size is the same.

Killer 5.3, I'm assuming you and Teenage Phenom are working on the same car?
Yes the physical size is the same. However not all plates flow the same. It's a 250 shot on this plate and will this fuel pressure.

Yes. It's a dual ownership.
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Originally Posted by shortdog
An .088 jet is an .088 jet (or whatever size yet), regardless who made it and what they rate it at. The orifice size is the same.

Killer 5.3, I'm assuming you and Teenage Phenom are working on the same car?
Yes sir. He is my son. Joint venture. Doesn't really matter what it comes out too. That's why we listed the jet size. Our next step will be .093 jet whatever that works out to. Regardless of what jet or orifice it is it will never make the exact same power on different setups or vehicles. Main thing is that you have the appropriate fuel jet , fuel supply, correct heat range plug, and timing that the eingine wants which varies from engine to engine even if identical setups. Baseline settings are just usually a safe starting point.
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I need to get into this "cam only " Game
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Originally Posted by Dickie-311
I need to get into this "cam only " Game
With a proper setup and tuning its not hard to get one to run well.
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Originally Posted by Dickie-311
I need to get into this "cam only " Game
Looks like you could maximize your current combo some. You are only picking up about .6 and 7 mph on a 150 shot. That tells me gearing, converter, tuneup or something isnt setup for nitrous . Ours is still far from maximized even though it does run well for the mods.
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Originally Posted by TeEnAgE pHeNoM
Yes the physical size is the same. However not all plates flow the same.
Solenoids, line size etc make a difference too.
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
Solenoids, line size etc make a difference too.
Exactly Speedtigger. Bottle valve, feed line size., solenoid, jet spread, timing , bottle pressure can all effect how much power a jet size makes. We run filter, -6 line, leaner fuel jet, conservative timing , consistent bottle psi 900-950 . Lot more to maximizing than just throwing a kit on and going with a baseline tuneup. Our car will go quicker once we make a few changes we have planned.
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Originally Posted by Killer5.3
Exactly Speedtigger. Bottle valve, feed line size., solenoid, jet spread, timing , bottle pressure can all effect how much power a jet size makes. We run filter, -6 line, leaner fuel jet, conservative timing , consistent bottle psi 900-950 . Lot more to maximizing than just throwing a kit on and going with a baseline tuneup. Our car will go quicker once we make a few changes we have planned.
I can tell you Killer, back in the day, we would just throw a cheap plate under the carb and hit it. We did not know the bottle pressure, fuel pressure, timing or anything.

This time around, when I started researching, I was very surprised by how much I did not know that I did not know. But, some hours on Yellow Bullet and a couple brain picking sessions with some outlaw racers got me on the right track. My $400 used Cheater kit quickly turned into a $1500 system, but my car ran hard right out of the box and the plugs look excellent and safe.
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Originally Posted by TeEnAgE pHeNoM
With a proper setup and tuning its not hard to get one to run well.
i've been doing alot of research and i'm willing to put in the seat time , trrial and error it takes it get it done
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Originally Posted by Killer5.3
Looks like you could maximize your current combo some. You are only picking up about .6 and 7 mph on a 150 shot. That tells me gearing, converter, tuneup or something isnt setup for nitrous . Ours is still far from maximized even though it does run well for the mods.
the car in my sig is my mustang LS swap car , it's really just an N/A car running spray with timing retarted , its a pump gas, drive it anywhere street car , .. but the car i'm going to use to run cam only is my 18k mile camaro ss
i'm really liking how fast you guy's are going , hard work , research and seat time and i'll get there . ..
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Originally Posted by Dickie-311
i've been doing alot of research and i'm willing to put in the seat time , trrial and error it takes it get it done
It's quite simple actually. Put a decent combo together and take it to the track.

Originally Posted by Dickie-311
the car in my sig is my mustang LS swap car , it's really just an N/A car running spray with timing retarted , its a pump gas, drive it anywhere street car , .. but the car i'm going to use to run cam only is my 18k mile camaro ss
i'm really liking how fast you guy's are going , hard work , research and seat time and i'll get there . ..
That's all this car is. True street car with a/c and everything. If you need any help let me know.
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Originally Posted by TeEnAgE pHeNoM



If you need any help let me know.

i deff will thanks
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this is what i plan on for parts to start : am i on the right track ?

moser 9 rearend ( shortened 2" per side) w/3.70 gear

built 4l60e

yank 3600 stall

TSP MS3 CAM ( with suporting valve springs)

arp rod bolts

f.a.s.t 90 intake

90mm TB

30LBS INJECTORS

WELD RT-s wheels

and nitrous i'm not sure on


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