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this is what i plan on for parts to start : am i on the right track ?
moser 9 rearend ( shortened 2" per side) w/3.70 gear
built 4l60e
yank 3600 stall
TSP MS3 CAM ( with suporting valve springs)
arp rod bolts
f.a.s.t 90 intake
90mm TB
30LBS INJECTORS
WELD RT-s wheels
and nitrous i'm not sure on
moser 9 rearend ( shortened 2" per side) w/3.70 gear
built 4l60e
yank 3600 stall
TSP MS3 CAM ( with suporting valve springs)
arp rod bolts
f.a.s.t 90 intake
90mm TB
30LBS INJECTORS
WELD RT-s wheels
and nitrous i'm not sure on
this is what i plan on for parts to start : am i on the right track ?
moser 9 rearend ( shortened 2" per side) w/3.70 gear
built 4l60e
yank 3600 stall
TSP MS3 CAM ( with suporting valve springs)
arp rod bolts
f.a.s.t 90 intake
90mm TB
30LBS INJECTORS
WELD RT-s wheels
and nitrous i'm not sure on
moser 9 rearend ( shortened 2" per side) w/3.70 gear
built 4l60e
yank 3600 stall
TSP MS3 CAM ( with suporting valve springs)
arp rod bolts
f.a.s.t 90 intake
90mm TB
30LBS INJECTORS
WELD RT-s wheels
and nitrous i'm not sure on
+1 on the converter. Ours came with the car is only reason we are running it now. It is getting sent to PTC to get reworked soon when we do gear swap to 3.70 . I would get the MS3 on a 112 0r 113 LSA if you are set on it or custom as Jacob suggested , keep the LS6 intake. Nitrous Outlet 78 mm plate, RPM, FLT, level 7, or Rossler Terminator III trans, custom converter. Spend the $$$ you save on the fast setup for suspension mods. We are swapping to a custom grind suited better for nitrous soon also.
As others have said a .088 jet is not "almost" a 300 shot, it is around a 250 shot and I need to say that very loosely because as others have also stated all plates will flow a little bit differently. I never got the chance to put my NO plate on the dyno, but the NX plate picked up between 250-262rwhp with a .082 jet(rated at 225 per NX IIRC), -6 line used on everything but nitrous to plate and fuel to plate lines and a .500" orifice bottle valve. 17* timing adding to 18.5* by 7000rpm and 11.9-12.3 AFR on C16.
Like martin said above in my "flowed" plate by induction solutions a .082 = 225 and .086= 250 now real world gains could vary +/- depending on setups, with custom grind n20 cams and thne setups youd can obviously see more gains. The fuel jet paired up with the n2o jet also plays a big role. Lean is mean and rich is retarded. Merry xmas
+1 on the converter. Ours came with the car is only reason we are running it now. It is getting sent to PTC to get reworked soon when we do gear swap to 3.70 . I would get the MS3 on a 112 0r 113 LSA if you are set on it or custom as Jacob suggested , keep the LS6 intake. Nitrous Outlet 78 mm plate, RPM, FLT, level 7, or Rossler Terminator III trans, custom converter. Spend the $$$ you save on the fast setup for suspension mods. We are swapping to a custom grind suited better for nitrous soon also.
^^^Thanks Lemons. You beat me to it. I have had no luck with PTC converters and OD transmissions. Plus a Yank would never be sent to PTC to get restalled. That's a down grade. I know they are close to you OP but not the best choice IMO. I have had 3 OD transmissions fail because of their converters and constantly had a balance problem. I put in a Coan racing converter and have never looked back.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
^^^Thanks Lemons. You beat me to it. I have had no luck with PTC converters and OD transmissions. Plus a Yank would never be sent to PTC to get restalled. That's a down grade. I know they are close to you OP but not the best choice IMO. I have had 3 OD transmissions fail because of their converters and constantly had a balance problem. I put in a Coan racing converter and have never looked back.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
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I have had good luck with PTC converters in the past ,but, it was with th350 or powerglide. Wasn't aware of any issues with their 4l60E stuff. I definitely don't want a $4500 trans grenaded because of converter issues. I just know that Yank doesn't really offer any custom nitrous converters that I have seen on their website or that anyone has mentioned. I know FTI has done some really nice converters for the TH350/400 stuff ,but, I haven't seen anything that has impressed me with 4l60E setups. I am definitely open to different ideas though. I will give Greg a call at FTI and see what he has to offer.
http://www.converter.cc/product_p/pas-ls.htm
With that said, I chose Circle D and could not be happier:
https://www.circledspecialties.com
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I have never been impressed with Yank on a nitrous car.
I'd be willing to give any company a shot, however I've never seen anything bad come from PTC. I just need it to be RIGHT from whatever company restalls it.
^^^Thanks Lemons. You beat me to it. I have had no luck with PTC converters and OD transmissions. Plus a Yank would never be sent to PTC to get restalled. That's a down grade. I know they are close to you OP but not the best choice IMO. I have had 3 OD transmissions fail because of their converters and constantly had a balance problem. I put in a Coan racing converter and have never looked back.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
You need to be talking to Greg at FTI. He is like the All Pro of the torque converter world. He keeps his business small enough so he can keep QC tight and produce a top notch product.
I'd be willing to give any company a shot, however I've never seen anything bad come from PTC. I just need it to be RIGHT from whatever company restalls it.
Then you will be even more let down with a PTC.
Greg@ FTI, Walker@Coan Racing, or Circle D is who you need to be talking to. I'm partial to Greg. He has put alot of cars on point with his converters and Camscam is one of them.
I'd be willing to give any company a shot, however I've never seen anything bad come from PTC. I just need it to be RIGHT from whatever company restalls it
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There are a lot of good converter builders. it's all about finding something that works for you, and with a company that is willing to work with you..
I work with ATI, Coan, Hughes, and have had real good results with all of them.
I work with ATI, Coan, Hughes, and have had real good results with all of them.
I'm running a PTC with a 4l60e, so far so good. It was a yank that I sent to them. So far I'm happy, I wasn't unhappy with the yank, but I needed it re-stalled and I wanted to see what they could do with it. I have heard good things about FTI, so I wouldn't hesitate to call them either.
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Now, that said, you just don't see or at least hear of anyone running one in a fast heads up class like X275, ODR, OL275 or even OL10.5. What you do see in those classes is PTC, Pro Torque, ATI, UCC, Coan, Neil Chance, Bradco, FTI, and Cameron's. You just don't see any Yank converters...in fact the fastest Yank powered car that I know of personally is David Childress' old Mighty Mouse Trans Am and it went 8.49@163 in the 1/4 and 5.40's@130 in the 1/8th. I always wondered what Dave's car would go with a different converter, but it did run damn good.
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There is nothing wrong with a Yank converter first let me say. They are the standard on this website and in a lot of street/strip LS cars.
Now, that said, you just don't see or at least hear of anyone running one in a fast heads up class like X275, ODR, OL275 or even OL10.5. What you do see in those classes is PTC, Pro Torque, ATI, UCC, Coan, Neil Chance, Bradco, FTI, and Cameron's. You just don't see any Yank converters...in fact the fastest Yank powered car that I know of personally is David Childress' old Mighty Mouse Trans Am and it went 8.49@163 in the 1/4 and 5.40's@130 in the 1/8th. I always wondered what Dave's car would go with a different converter, but it did run damn good.
Now, that said, you just don't see or at least hear of anyone running one in a fast heads up class like X275, ODR, OL275 or even OL10.5. What you do see in those classes is PTC, Pro Torque, ATI, UCC, Coan, Neil Chance, Bradco, FTI, and Cameron's. You just don't see any Yank converters...in fact the fastest Yank powered car that I know of personally is David Childress' old Mighty Mouse Trans Am and it went 8.49@163 in the 1/4 and 5.40's@130 in the 1/8th. I always wondered what Dave's car would go with a different converter, but it did run damn good.
Btw Martin I think I met some of you guys at an LsX shootout one year. I've been considering getting with you on a camshaft recommendation.
Well I feel as if my car runs pretty decent with the yank converter, but it's getting about 8% slip on the big end. I know of plenty cars that run quite well with Yank converters. However, I'm sure you can agree there is room for improvement. Maybe if they started offering custom stalls for applications that they could expand their customer base to different markets. I think Yank makes a damn fine product.
Btw Martin I think I met some of you guys at an LsX shootout one year. I've been considering getting with you on a camshaft recommendation.
Btw Martin I think I met some of you guys at an LsX shootout one year. I've been considering getting with you on a camshaft recommendation.
Let me know on the cam, I would be glad to do a grind for you.
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8% is actually decent and nothing to sneeze at. I'm sure you did meet Jonathan and his dad at the Shootout a while back. We haven't been to one in about a year though....we plan to hit the series up this year with the shop car and my car when the new engine goes in soon.
Let me know on the cam, I would be glad to do a grind for you.
Let me know on the cam, I would be glad to do a grind for you.
Would you be willing to just send me the recommendation? I have a guy who grinds them for me for a good price.
Yeah. It's not terrible. It was just getting 6% before I upped the shot. I also have the same 1/8th mile trap speed on the bigger shot. I went 109.75 on a 175 shot. 110.5-111 on a 200 and 110.5 on the 250.
Would you be willing to just send me the recommendation? I have a guy who grinds them for me for a good price.
Would you be willing to just send me the recommendation? I have a guy who grinds them for me for a good price.