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Old May 3, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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I have a NOS 5177 dry kit.. When I spray off the line and even sometimes when I'm already moving theres alot of popping for few seconds then it goes away. Does anyone have any idea what it might be? I'm using not jets & I do purge. The only thing that I think is that maybe I'm lacking fuel which causes the popping. Any feedback would be appreciated.....
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Old May 3, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Whats your bottle pressure , are you running lean , any tune yet, what size jets.
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Old May 3, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Yea that could be detonation.. definatly get a wideband dyno
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Old May 4, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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I dont have any NOS tunning I just did the mail in tunning for the TR 224 cam only by Thunder.On motor everything seems to be runing pretty good on a wide band. I am using NO JETS cause its a dry kit which is about a 125 shot more or less & I am using my stock injectors and its a 2000 Z28. Would going to a larger injector help out?
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Old May 4, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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Actually, have you thought about a wet kit?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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I think I am goingt o jump to a wet kit eventually but for now I think I am going to upgrade my injectors to see if that helps..
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:16 AM
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if it dont help swap to a walbro 255lph.intank pump.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:19 AM
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Cool thanks bro
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:20 AM
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The other thing to check is if the fittings are all tight. If a fitting is loose it will bleed off and go all over the map. The extra fuel may not be able to burn and as a result it dumps into the exhaust creating some popping. It happened to me once and I found that the fittings on the nozzles had worked themselves loose a little.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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My car is doing this same thing

I'm running a 100 shoot with a NOS 5177 Dry kit on a 2002 SS M6

Is there anything i could maybe adjust the FPSS switch?
Am i trying to add my Fuel or is it getting too much?

Im running everything stock.. as is... With 91 Octane gas..

What do you guys suggest i do?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FinalTA
Guys....you really need to figure our why in the hell you are detonating. That is HORRIBLE while on the spray. Get your cars on a dyno with a wideband and/or get them tuned. You will pop your motor this way...
If it goes on a Dyno with Wideband will that fix the problems will it just pin point whats exactly going on and then i will need to get it fixed from there?

How much does that cost?

I dont use N20 everyday. so if i get it tuned witht hat Widebad dyno will it still be fine for normal everyday driving and races without n20 or will it need to be re programmed?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FinalTA
My suggestion....

Buy a MAFT (MAF Translator). When you get your car dyno'd with a wideband, it will tell you how rich (or lean in this case more than likely) you are. Adjust the MAFT until the air:fuel ratio is in check.

I run mine one way for daily use and another for the N2O. In other words, 1% lean for NA and 4% rich for N2O...

How much is a MAF Translator?

The MAFT is the square thing right behind the lid. What the lid connects onto right?

After i get it dynoed with that Wideband and adjust the air:fuel ratio how will i know what to set it to? or will it need to be Re Dynoed?

I'm not too clear about this just yet..
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FinalTA
A MAFT will run about $100. It is indeed the box that connects to the MAF (behind the lid).

You will adjust the MAFT while you are on the dyno to reach the desired AFR. Note the value that corresponds to the AFR you are wanting (about 12.5:1 or so while on the spray).
So just buy a new MAFT (from where) and have it adjusted to the correct setting and just swap it when i want to use N20 and put the stock MAFT back on when i want to just drive around N/A

Is this adjusted through the computer. Not the actual MAFT?

How much does a Dyno with a Wideband cost?

Cant this be done using LS1 Edit or EFI live?

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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FinalTA
Some clarification...

1. The MAFT is a device that is connected between the MAF and the PCM. The wire harness that normally connects to the MAF is connected to the MAFT, and the MAFT is then connected to the MAF. The MAFT interprets the signal from the MAF and sends an altered signal to the PCM in order to richen/lean the AFR.

2. You can buy a MAFT from Ramchargers (sponsor http://www.ramchargers.com/), or find one in the classified section. I'd look for a used one myself.

3. You will not have to swap anything once you have the MAFT in place. All you really have to do is find the best setting for the MAFT while you are on the dyno/wideband. You can then adjust the MAFT for optimal NA driving or N2O runs once you know the settings that work best.

4. An hour on the dyno with wideband should run you around $125 or so.

5. You can do this with LS1 edit (or have someone tune the car for you). However, you are looking at around $500 for that.
If i descreen my MAF will that help any? or will it make it worst?

Or could this only be fixed with the MAFT?
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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Which way should the two nozzles be pointing?

Right now i have them both drilled in the sides of my lid.. About 3 inchs from the back, and both nozzles are pointed directly at the MAF

Is that bad?
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Old May 8, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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The way I have mine or drilled to the side of the lid one on each side..
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