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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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What is that about? I don't really see anything wrong with what was said?

If you want to talk ****, send me a PM about it and lets talk.. You put rookies on here and then don't elaborate why you are downing my comments just, to me anyways, means you cant justify what you are ridiculing.
Lighten up Francis !

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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NnOoSsSs
Gotta love when its done right
I guess I have done a lot right because I have run nitrous on 6 different vehicles and have managed to never have a backfire, never burn a plug, or blow up a motor...

Not bad for a ROOKIE...
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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I think its your claims of "Pro Fogger", 8 plugs colder and needing a full face helmet in case of nitrous backfires that threw your credibility of nitrous tuning and use out the widow.
You also don't need a stand alone fuel system.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 01:38 PM
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I think its your claims of "Pro Fogger", 8 plugs colder and needing a full face helmet in case of nitrous backfires that threw your credibility of nitrous tuning and use out the widow.
You also don't need a stand alone fuel system.

I would rather have a full face helmet in the event of schrapnel from whatever explodes either coming through the glass of the windshield, or striking the windshield and sending shards inside the cab. So yeah, until it is tuned up to run right, I will be having as close to a full face as I can get if I ever go that high of a hp level.

and the rule is one stage colder per 50 horsepower is it not? how many times must you multiply 50 to get to 400? THAT WOULD BE 8!!!!

And for 400 horsepower, it would actually be cheaper to just set up a separate fuel sustem because all you would really need is pump and regulator (holley blue would work perfectly) and the fuel lines to run up to the nitrous solenoids. It would turn on when you armed the nitrous system, and off when done. Not everyone runs a $500-1000 fuel pump setup in their car. And dont 99.9% of the sumps that are built to tanks have 2 feeds? I know the fuel cell I am buying in 2 weeks has two feeds..

So now that all that has been justified, what else?
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Lighten up Francis !

If you dont know, I aint got time to explain it to you.
And that means you can't explain yourself.

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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
I would rather have a full face helmet in the event of schrapnel from whatever explodes either coming through the glass of the windshield, or striking the windshield and sending shards inside the cab. So yeah, until it is tuned up to run right, I will be having as close to a full face as I can get if I ever go that high of a hp level.

and the rule is one stage colder per 50 horsepower is it not? how many times must you multiply 50 to get to 400? THAT WOULD BE 8!!!!

And for 400 horsepower, it would actually be cheaper to just set up a separate fuel sustem because all you would really need is pump and regulator (holley blue would work perfectly) and the fuel lines to run up to the nitrous solenoids. It would turn on when you armed the nitrous system, and off when done. Not everyone runs a $500-1000 fuel pump setup in their car. And dont 99.9% of the sumps that are built to tanks have 2 feeds? I know the fuel cell I am buying in 2 weeks has two feeds..

So now that all that has been justified, what else?
You just lost some more credibility with this post.
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
And that means you can't explain yourself.

The guy you're talking to is one of the most knowledgeable guys here and alot of us have learned from him including me. He has probably shot more nitrous thru his motor at 1 event then you have shot in a whole year of racing.

He has beat his head against the wall so many times with guys like you that he is tired of explaining the same thing over and over when someone new like you comes around.

Hey ATV, I run tr6's on a 350 shot in my 13.5:1 motor. I need you to take a look at my plugs when you get a chance.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
The guy you're talking to is one of the most knowledgeable guys here and alot of us have learned from him including me. He has probably shot more nitrous thru his motor at 1 event then you have shot in a whole year of racing.

He has beat his head against the wall so many times with guys like you that he is tired of explaining the same thing over and over when someone new like you comes around.

What are you, his spokesperson? *edit* You are doing the exact same **** he is.. running the post down and not clarifying why it is inaccurate information.

I offered a chance to send me a pm to explain why he was saying my information is wrong and I haven't heard anything about it from anyone, you, him or anyone else for that matter.

back up the fact you are degrading my information with SOMETHING for an explanation. Not one single time did I claim to be an expert in any of this, but by God the information that is posted above has reasons behind it. Called SAFETY.. If you want to talk **** about my info, send me a pm with accurate information backing up what you are saying.. That is all I am saying plain and simple. Like that saying goes talk the talk, then walk the walk... Give me information to correct what I am saying with FACTS.. Not just simply putting "ROOKIES" in a comment.
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So what is the stocking number on a NGK TR14
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
I would rather have a full face helmet in the event of schrapnel from whatever explodes either coming through the glass of the windshield, or striking the windshield and sending shards inside the cab. So yeah, until it is tuned up to run right, I will be having as close to a full face as I can get if I ever go that high of a hp level.

and the rule is one stage colder per 50 horsepower is it not? how many times must you multiply 50 to get to 400? THAT WOULD BE 8!!!!

So now that all that has been justified, what else?
I bet you love taking "schrapnel" to the face...lol!

So we are supposed to run a plug 8 "stages" colder?

I dont have time to debate **** that 99% of the guys that post in the nitrous section already know.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:50 PM
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So what is the stocking number on a NGK TR14
BR-HORSESHIT-14
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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exactly my point right there. you have time to jump on here and put a smartass comment about what has been said but cant take a couple minute to back it up with facts.

I will do this the easy way and go ahead and unsubscribe from this because clearly everyone here is more interested in being a smartass than just explaining why the information is inaccurate.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
exactly my point right there. you have time to jump on here and put a smartass comment about what has been said but cant take a couple minute to back it up with facts.

I will do this the easy way and go ahead and unsubscribe from this because clearly everyone here is more interested in being a smartass than just explaining why the information is inaccurate.
Fact: nitrous does not turn your intake into a BOMB.

Fact: I have had many backfires and NEVER had schrapnel flying (other than the hood scoop) if that were the case every person standing near the starting line would need a BOMB suit on.

Fact: There is no such thing as a plug that is 8 stages colder than stock.

Fact: you should unsubscribe but continue to read and learn.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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So what is the stocking number on a NGK TR14
Sorry. I couldn't help myself. And that was funny anyway. Ed72455. My original question was 'how much will a stock Ls3 block take"? I wasn't looking for advise on my nitrous system, or safety equipment. The plug that most guys run spraying 400+ In an LS is an NGK 5671a-11. That would be 5 steps colder than a 6. But other things like fuel, compression, and na horsepower come in to play when selecting a plug. ATV, and a few others on here are the only ones that I know of who have sprayed 400+ with of nitrous on an LS motor. So when they respond to my questions, I listen and apply it if I can. Ed I appreciate you offering your advise to my questions. Just having some fun. Keep it light.
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Ed .. did you produce this show ??

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-o...-your-car.html
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Old Dec 12, 2013 | 03:11 PM
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I run a DP 250 wet & 250 dry = 500. on a LS3 board out to 4.090" 431cid.
heres a little pic of my setup
Is that a picture of a motor or of sex? OMFG.
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Originally Posted by BigEd_72455
What are you, his spokesperson? *edit* You are doing the exact same **** he is.. running the post down and not clarifying why it is inaccurate information.

I offered a chance to send me a pm to explain why he was saying my information is wrong and I haven't heard anything about it from anyone, you, him or anyone else for that matter.

back up the fact you are degrading my information with SOMETHING for an explanation. Not one single time did I claim to be an expert in any of this, but by God the information that is posted above has reasons behind it. Called SAFETY.. If you want to talk **** about my info, send me a pm with accurate information backing up what you are saying.. That is all I am saying plain and simple. Like that saying goes talk the talk, then walk the walk... Give me information to correct what I am saying with FACTS.. Not just simply putting "ROOKIES" in a comment.
How about you sit back and dont post ****? Sit back and just soak up the info so you don't look like an *** like you just did.
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We sell our LS3 based 419 assemblies on a consistent basis rated to 1000 flywheel hp. 1200fwhp with billet rod upgrade! As long as you do not try to overextend the powerband/oiling system and you have good supporting parts.
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Originally Posted by LivernoisMotorsports
We sell our LS3 based 419 assemblies on a consistent basis rated to 1000 flywheel hp. 1200fwhp with billet rod upgrade! As long as you do not try to overextend the powerband/oiling system and you have good supporting parts.
Thank you sir. I spoke with Jason yesterday. I might be giving y'all a call after the first of the year
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Managed to pick up a few useful facts from this thread, thanks ATV and Roger. I plan to spray nitrous at some point this coming season and I've never sprayed before so it'll be interesting. Built this new motor for nitrous so I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of questions in the near future. I have (2) 10lb bottles and running a -6an feed that is a "Y" split for both bottles and a valve and gauge installed on the feed line. Looking at a 4 solenoid direct port kit from n2o outlet and use a standalone fuel cell eventually. I figure while I'm working my way up in the pills and getting it dialed in I can get away with running it off the rails. I still have a lot of learning to do like pill sizes and which plug and reading plugs and how to figure out what the limit really is. I went to an iron block with hefty parts so I can spray a decent amount of nitrous.
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