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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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I have a 98 f body with 01 long block(241heads). I bought a ls9 cam and want to run nitrous outlet plate kit. I've been thinking of advancing the cam a few degrees to bring the power range down some when not spraying. How far advanced can I install this cam? The way I understand it, cams with overlap are susceptible to reversion. Is my cam with negative overlap still susceptible? I was wanting to advance the cam more than ordinary (6+deg.)

Im stuck with this cam for now so I want to set it up to work as well as it can. Ill be swapping to 5.3 heads (706) that should put me close to 11-1. This is my whole setup:

01 ls1 stock
Ported 706 heads shaved ~.020
ls9 cam
1.8 rr
25% underdrive
150 shot nitrous outlet plate kit
long tube 1 7/8 3" collector

Any technical advice will be appreciated.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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No need to do anything with that cam but install it straight up. That baby cam aint going to sufer down low. And not sure what you mean about overlap. Tons of guys running nitrous with 10+ degrees of overlap and making killer power, running fast *** ET's all while doing it safe.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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I agree with Pheonix here. Sounds like you should just go with a different cam
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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No need to do anything with that cam but install it straight up. That baby cam aint going to sufer down low. And not sure what you mean about overlap. Tons of guys running nitrous with 10+ degrees of overlap and making killer power, running fast *** ET's all while doing it safe.
advancing a cam too far that has overlap ground into it can cause reversion, maybe im making a mountain out of a mole hill and reversion won't happen till I get into the 10*+ range

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I agree with Pheonix here. Sounds like you should just go with a different cam
Yeah I should have picked a different cam. It was a bunch of mistakes all in a row with my credit card lol. If I can set it up and still get good torque out of it then that will be fine. Ive been reading that the ls9 cam loses as much as 40 ft lbs down low and doesn't catch up until 4500. My high compression may make up for some of that idk. Looking for expert cam advice.
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Old Mar 31, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by danielblackst1
Yeah I should have picked a different cam. It was a bunch of mistakes all in a row with my credit card lol. If I can set it up and still get good torque out of it then that will be fine. Ive been reading that the ls9 cam loses as much as 40 ft lbs down low and doesn't catch up until 4500. My high compression may make up for some of that idk. Looking for expert cam advice.
What are the specs of the LS9 cam? My 227/235 110 LSA cam doesn't feel like it lost anything down low, and then comes on like a raped ape around 4 grand. I have no before dyno numbers, but the dyno graph shows looks right on par, in regards to low end torque, to what other bolt on LS1's put down.
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What are the specs of the LS9 cam? My 227/235 110 LSA cam doesn't feel like it lost anything down low, and then comes on like a raped ape around 4 grand. I have no before dyno numbers, but the dyno graph shows looks right on par, in regards to low end torque, to what other bolt on LS1's put down.
.552/.558 211/230@.050 122.5lca 122icl from what I've read
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I don't see how, with a good tuner, that cam loses much down low.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
I don't see how, with a good tuner, that cam loses much down low.
I believe I'll be getting the tuning done at vengeance racing by mike carnahan.
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That cam should be very easy to dial in, especially for pros like the guys at Vengeance.
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If I'm swapping a cam in and getting a tune done, there is no way in hell that I am putting an LS9 cam in my motor. Unless you live in Cali nor something for smog but even then there are good cams that still can pass a sniffer test.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
If I'm swapping a cam in and getting a tune done, there is no way in hell that I am putting an LS9 cam in my motor. Unless you live in Cali nor something for smog but even then there are good cams that still can pass a sniffer test.
that's good to know. Thanks for the $.02
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Im stuck with what I have for right now so I'm trying to make the best of it.
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Sell that cam for 100 bucks and I have a Magic stick 3 I can sell you that I never used for $250.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Sell that cam for 100 bucks and I have a Magic stick 3 I can sell you that I never used for $250.
I don't have the springs for an ms3 so thats another added cost. Ms3 is over .600 lift right. If I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Sell that cam for 100 bucks and I have a Magic stick 3 I can sell you that I never used for $250.
where are you located and do you know if that cam is nitrous friendly?
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Many guys have used it for nitrous use on here and if I remember correctly the moderator Camscam had an ms3 in his car and went low 9's with it. It's at my shop right now. The cam was supposed to go in an ls1 for a customer and he was going to hit it with a healthy dose of nitrous but plans changed and he decided to build a stroker.
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Originally Posted by danielblackst1
where are you located and do you know if that cam is nitrous friendly?
With small to moderate shots of nitrous almost any cam will be just fine on nitrous. No need to be concerned about "nitrous friendly" cams at this level
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by danielblackst1
.552/.558 211/230@.050 122.5lca 122icl from what I've read
If you advance this cam to + 6 or 8 it would not hurt. I think it will help.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
If I'm swapping a cam in and getting a tune done, there is no way in hell that I am putting an LS9 cam in my motor. Unless you live in Cali nor something for smog but even then there are good cams that still can pass a sniffer test.
I agree with you on that one. Heck, I wish I'd have gone bigger than the cam I have now that it's all said and done.
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