Build Question
#1
Build Question
Ok so im new to nitrous and im planning my build for next year. originally i wanted to build a 402 stroker with about a 400 shot to send me into the low numbers. i wanted about 450-550 wheel on motor and on spray shoot for about 700-900 wheel. will this goal effect the streetability of my car? would that be a track only kind of app? because i drive the car mostly on the street and i frequently visit mexico so keeping it a street car is a must. how does the tuning of the car work? im just confused on how the whole tuning and streetability is affect by such a large shot. also is a plate kit not recommended for this application? also i would like to stay at 93 pump
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Nitrous wouldn't effect the streetability of it at all. As long as the motor will hold it, there is no reason you can't achieve your goals. If you need a quote on a setup, send me a PM with what your wanting to do.
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#5
The guys at nitrous express can get you a great kit for the build. We can get you a great motor as well. Building that kind of power is not a problem with the correct platform. Our rule of thumb is never exceed 50% of your motors NA power with your nitrous. Example, If you make 600HP NA do not exceed 300HP of nitrous. You can do so but your tuning window shrinks quickly. This being said you can hurt the motor with much less using a bad tune up but this should get you in the ballpark of a reliable safe build. Please let me know if I can help you in any way.
#6
The guys at nitrous express can get you a great kit for the build. We can get you a great motor as well. Building that kind of power is not a problem with the correct platform. Our rule of thumb is never exceed 50% of your motors NA power with your nitrous. Example, If you make 600HP NA do not exceed 300HP of nitrous. You can do so but your tuning window shrinks quickly. This being said you can hurt the motor with much less using a bad tune up but this should get you in the ballpark of a reliable safe build. Please let me know if I can help you in any way.
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#10
When you are tuning you will always have a margin of error (Tuning window). Using a 9.0:1 454CI LSx with LS7 heads to make 400HP your window is so large you almost cant mess it up. There are few variables and more than adequate components to do what you are asking.
When you put together a 11.0:1 400 inch motor to make 900HP on nitrous you are dealing with optimizing the air fuel and timing on the motor and regulating/optimizing the nitrous and fuel delivery on the motor. At this point everything matters. The length of the lines you use on the nitrous, the timing and fueling per cylinder, the quality and age of the fuel, the weight of the car and use, Will it be a 1/8 mile pass or 1 mile WOT run. You have to look at every aspect when you complicate the build and create multiple forms of power production. This is the case with all forms of power not just nitrous, I am not trying to talk you into or out of anything just keep in mind that the more HP you make per CI as well as the added forms of power you are using to create that power all complicate and narrow the window. It becomes much easier to make a mistake at levels like that.
When you put together a 11.0:1 400 inch motor to make 900HP on nitrous you are dealing with optimizing the air fuel and timing on the motor and regulating/optimizing the nitrous and fuel delivery on the motor. At this point everything matters. The length of the lines you use on the nitrous, the timing and fueling per cylinder, the quality and age of the fuel, the weight of the car and use, Will it be a 1/8 mile pass or 1 mile WOT run. You have to look at every aspect when you complicate the build and create multiple forms of power production. This is the case with all forms of power not just nitrous, I am not trying to talk you into or out of anything just keep in mind that the more HP you make per CI as well as the added forms of power you are using to create that power all complicate and narrow the window. It becomes much easier to make a mistake at levels like that.
#11
With that big of a shot, the car combo must be built around a nitrous setup. Converter, cam, piston and rings and so on. The car/setup can do it. Now whether it would be better if you boost or spray is up to you. I'm a nitrous guy but building a boost setup and after I thought long and hard I can't get away with spray and am going back to building a stock ci nitrous record car with my camaro and putting my boost setup in a trans am roller. that's all in preferences
Garrett does offer amazing deals and I'm a nitrous outlet guy but he has me thinking of getting with nx express on this record seeking build.
Get a good controller like the lnc-2000 and the tuning for each would be a little better
Garrett does offer amazing deals and I'm a nitrous outlet guy but he has me thinking of getting with nx express on this record seeking build.
Get a good controller like the lnc-2000 and the tuning for each would be a little better
#16
Boost or spray will get you to your goal. How you wanna get there is your preference. They both have there pros and cons. That's why I'm just doing both and honestly both will probably run the same and both have same bottom ends. Only difference is top end and one is iron block and the other aluminum. The nitrous car will be light and turbo car full weight.
There are Alot of nitrous guys and you can probably easily search for another combo similar to yours. Looked like as far as what? I have done stock, bolt on, built, nozzle, plates, and direct ports. With my new setup it will be a max effort try to run 8s woth a 347. I have long block figured out. Just going to talk to Brandon from n20outlet and Garrett from nx express and see what I'm going to do as far as intake and n20 distribution setup
There are Alot of nitrous guys and you can probably easily search for another combo similar to yours. Looked like as far as what? I have done stock, bolt on, built, nozzle, plates, and direct ports. With my new setup it will be a max effort try to run 8s woth a 347. I have long block figured out. Just going to talk to Brandon from n20outlet and Garrett from nx express and see what I'm going to do as far as intake and n20 distribution setup
#17
In my opinion, making the power will be quite expensive on spray (especially that large of a shot) if its a street car. Couple hits of it here and there and you have blasted through a 10lb bottle in no time. I kill a 10lb bottle on a 100 shot in a couple hours on the street hitting it here and there. You boost it once and you have free usable power basically. Street cars = Boost. Good luck.
#18
Well i visit mexico quite often. i like the fact that i can run people all motor and turn the spray on for those quicker cars. given i can do that boosting my car not giving it my all.