Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Build Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:07 AM
  #1  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default Build Question

Ok so im new to nitrous and im planning my build for next year. originally i wanted to build a 402 stroker with about a 400 shot to send me into the low numbers. i wanted about 450-550 wheel on motor and on spray shoot for about 700-900 wheel. will this goal effect the streetability of my car? would that be a track only kind of app? because i drive the car mostly on the street and i frequently visit mexico so keeping it a street car is a must. how does the tuning of the car work? im just confused on how the whole tuning and streetability is affect by such a large shot. also is a plate kit not recommended for this application? also i would like to stay at 93 pump

Last edited by 86Z28USAF; Nov 18, 2014 at 01:00 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:15 AM
  #2  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

also i have about 10-15gs to spend. should i just boost the car to reach my goals instead?
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:48 AM
  #3  
NitrousExpress's Avatar
Ls1tech & Truck Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,267
Likes: 1
From: Wichita falls Texas
Default

Nitrous wouldn't effect the streetability of it at all. As long as the motor will hold it, there is no reason you can't achieve your goals. If you need a quote on a setup, send me a PM with what your wanting to do.

-Garrett
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:57 AM
  #4  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

thank you and i will def go through nx to get my kit (iguess advertising got the best of me)
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 12:30 PM
  #5  
thompson's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 914
Likes: 17
Default

The guys at nitrous express can get you a great kit for the build. We can get you a great motor as well. Building that kind of power is not a problem with the correct platform. Our rule of thumb is never exceed 50% of your motors NA power with your nitrous. Example, If you make 600HP NA do not exceed 300HP of nitrous. You can do so but your tuning window shrinks quickly. This being said you can hurt the motor with much less using a bad tune up but this should get you in the ballpark of a reliable safe build. Please let me know if I can help you in any way.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 12:39 PM
  #6  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

Originally Posted by thompson
The guys at nitrous express can get you a great kit for the build. We can get you a great motor as well. Building that kind of power is not a problem with the correct platform. Our rule of thumb is never exceed 50% of your motors NA power with your nitrous. Example, If you make 600HP NA do not exceed 300HP of nitrous. You can do so but your tuning window shrinks quickly. This being said you can hurt the motor with much less using a bad tune up but this should get you in the ballpark of a reliable safe build. Please let me know if I can help you in any way.
thanks! now what do you mean by tuning window?
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 12:39 PM
  #7  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

see these are all the things i have no idea about
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 12:54 PM
  #8  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

and does anyone reccommend nx over nitrous outlet or the other way around and why?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:02 PM
  #9  
NitrousExpress's Avatar
Ls1tech & Truck Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,267
Likes: 1
From: Wichita falls Texas
Default

No problem buddy. We will work with you through the install and any other questions you may have along the way. Thanks TMS!

-Garrett
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:03 PM
  #10  
thompson's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 914
Likes: 17
Default

When you are tuning you will always have a margin of error (Tuning window). Using a 9.0:1 454CI LSx with LS7 heads to make 400HP your window is so large you almost cant mess it up. There are few variables and more than adequate components to do what you are asking.
When you put together a 11.0:1 400 inch motor to make 900HP on nitrous you are dealing with optimizing the air fuel and timing on the motor and regulating/optimizing the nitrous and fuel delivery on the motor. At this point everything matters. The length of the lines you use on the nitrous, the timing and fueling per cylinder, the quality and age of the fuel, the weight of the car and use, Will it be a 1/8 mile pass or 1 mile WOT run. You have to look at every aspect when you complicate the build and create multiple forms of power production. This is the case with all forms of power not just nitrous, I am not trying to talk you into or out of anything just keep in mind that the more HP you make per CI as well as the added forms of power you are using to create that power all complicate and narrow the window. It becomes much easier to make a mistake at levels like that.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:16 PM
  #11  
SCott5's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (40)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,458
Likes: 4
From: NC
Default

With that big of a shot, the car combo must be built around a nitrous setup. Converter, cam, piston and rings and so on. The car/setup can do it. Now whether it would be better if you boost or spray is up to you. I'm a nitrous guy but building a boost setup and after I thought long and hard I can't get away with spray and am going back to building a stock ci nitrous record car with my camaro and putting my boost setup in a trans am roller. that's all in preferences

Garrett does offer amazing deals and I'm a nitrous outlet guy but he has me thinking of getting with nx express on this record seeking build.

Get a good controller like the lnc-2000 and the tuning for each would be a little better
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:31 PM
  #12  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

ahhh ok i gtocha thank you for clearing that up
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:34 PM
  #13  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

that was ultimately my idea was to build the car around the nitrous set up.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 01:35 PM
  #14  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

so boost or spray is all preference?
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 02:49 PM
  #15  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

is anyone doing anything similar to what i want on here? Scott what have your nitorus builds looked like?
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 04:46 PM
  #16  
SCott5's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (40)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,458
Likes: 4
From: NC
Default

Boost or spray will get you to your goal. How you wanna get there is your preference. They both have there pros and cons. That's why I'm just doing both and honestly both will probably run the same and both have same bottom ends. Only difference is top end and one is iron block and the other aluminum. The nitrous car will be light and turbo car full weight.

There are Alot of nitrous guys and you can probably easily search for another combo similar to yours. Looked like as far as what? I have done stock, bolt on, built, nozzle, plates, and direct ports. With my new setup it will be a max effort try to run 8s woth a 347. I have long block figured out. Just going to talk to Brandon from n20outlet and Garrett from nx express and see what I'm going to do as far as intake and n20 distribution setup
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 06:31 PM
  #17  
roastin240's Avatar
TECH Resident
10 Year Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 911
Likes: 4
From: Melbourne, FL
Default

In my opinion, making the power will be quite expensive on spray (especially that large of a shot) if its a street car. Couple hits of it here and there and you have blasted through a 10lb bottle in no time. I kill a 10lb bottle on a 100 shot in a couple hours on the street hitting it here and there. You boost it once and you have free usable power basically. Street cars = Boost. Good luck.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:02 PM
  #18  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

Well i visit mexico quite often. i like the fact that i can run people all motor and turn the spray on for those quicker cars. given i can do that boosting my car not giving it my all.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:03 PM
  #19  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

alot of slimey people where my car is so i kinda need that element of surprise
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:09 PM
  #20  
86Z28USAF's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Long Island NY
Default

im sure we can all relate. so what im looking to do will be just as expensive as boosting?
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE