116 octane vs retarding timing??
116 octane vs retarding timing?? I currently run a 50 shot on a regularly tuned NA car with no problems. If I run the 93 octane down and ad about 5 gallons of 116 octane could I safely run a 100 shot without pulling timing?
If you were tuned on 93 then start running C16 then technically your NA tune is already is down on timing for the fuel. I've sprayed over a 100 wet shot without pulling timing on a safe NA tune, just depends on who tuned it and how aggressive they are. But pretty much everyone would run more timing on C16 then pump gas on an NA engine. But I agree once you do 100 shot, then you will want 150 so you may as well plan ahead and get a way to control your tune whether that's the LNC-2000 suggested above or gaining access to HPtuners which I feel is the best route.
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I haven't been spraying very long but I'm running a fuel cell w/ C16 & don't pull timing for a 100 shot. I know a few others that have the same setup & this seems to work. I pull 2 deg for a 150 shot. Yes I have an LNC2000 & they're a lil more than $200. $250-$300 You can get away with not pulling as much timing running a dedicated fuel cell with C16
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I get it, you're at 50 and want to bump it to 100 with out spending much cash or doing any work. A 100 shot without timing pulled is living on the edge. No one should advise it when the potential consequence is a broken motor. Sure, some get away with it but some do not. I think all of us have been lucky doing stupid things at some point in our lives. That doesn't change the fact that they're still stupid things. Eventually, they can bite us.
Don't waste money on 5 gallons of race gas for a 100 shot. Get a few sets of NGK BR7EF plugs and an LNC-2000.
No. VP C16 has a research octane rating of 120+ and a motor octane rating of 117.
You're playing with fire. Get the LNC-2000 sooner than later.
I don't see anyone scared of running 100 shot on c16. But yes I believe it's bad practice to take a hot NA tune and run 100 shot with out pulling timing. Regardless of fuel. Do you really think someone who won't spend 200 bucks on a lnc2000 is going to take the time to read plugs and realize its overtimed?
There's one thing that most here probably know but haven't yet mentioned for this instance.. I am only guessing on this but I am under the impression from your post that you're assuming that pulling timing is killing power, so you'd rather spend $70 on 5 gallons of fuel. Well, without Nitrous yes that would be true, however, pulling the appropriate amount of timing while spraying may actually benefit rather than hurt your power output. IF you're detonating or your computer is pulling timing for knock retard, then you're actually losing out on power, while say you spray the 100 shot on 93 octane fuel with a few degrees pulled you may actually make more power and do better than your 100 shot on c16 with no timing pulled. I hope this makes some sense to all, in my head it does but sometimes I do not articulate my thoughts well. In short can you do what you're asking, certainly... Is it smart or the best practice here? Eh not really... just pull a little timing and stay with 93 and get a colder plug in there. I do not know what you're running now but I'd say a 6 or 7 range would be appropriate at 100 hp wet shot on a stock-ish motor. Nitrous tuning is very situational, and you can get away with living on the edge, for a little while anyways but when it lets go, boy it really lets go. I will say this also, just so you know, in the world of Nitrous 50-100hp is NOTHING for spray.