jwilson

Hello all....I am hoping you can help me. I am doing research for my boyfriend. He got a ticket awhile back that he has a court date for next month. The officer gave him a ticket for nitrous. He said it was illegal. Even though my bf said that it wasnt. I am having a hard time finding the laws about nitrous. He had it hooked up in his car but got in a hit and run accident he didnt even use the nitrous yet. The officer just saw it in the trunk.

Please any information would be appreciated.

Thank you
Jamie

MeanWS6

how can he get a ticket for spray, for one its a non-flammable gas - says it right their on the bottle!!! The bottles have blow off valves so if he gets hit from behind chances are IF it even hits the bottle hard enough it will rupture the valve first.
fight that ticket and keep us updated.

generalchaos

what state? call a lawyer or something, one of them will give you info for free.

BigPlanTransAm

did he have a permit? in jersey if you dont have a nitrous permit they get you with a narcotics charge.

kp

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I believe in tennessee its is against the law to have a nitrous bottle in your car also. It falls under some kind of pressurized gas transport/DOT thing. I have 'heard' of a couple people getting a ticket because of it but I dont know how true it is. Find a traffic lawyer or if you have any friends that are cops have them find out bfeore court.

Rob98Z

Don't know where you are from, but here in GA:

40-8-10.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person on a public road
to drive a passenger car, excluding a motor home, which
supplies the motor vehicle's combustion engine with
nitrous oxide unless the system supplying nitrous oxide is
made inoperative by disconnecting the line feeding nitrous
oxide to the engine or by removing the container or
containers of nitrous oxide from the vehicle.

(b) Any person who violates subsection (a) of this Code
section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor."

MeanWS6

note to self - dont move to Jerset or GA

for real though, like these guys said, get a lawyer, or play stupid in court that you didnt know it was illegal. Do keep us updated though

Hell, I have 3-4 55LB cylinders sitting against my wall in my garage next to my refill station. Cops never never said a thing everytime my bitch neighbor calls the cops about my exhaust.

SDB

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It is illegal in most states to transport a hazardous substance, which nitrous can be defined as due to pressure it is stored at...this is how some poeple can be busted....transporting a hazad. substance without permit.

kp

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heh, guess its OK to spray on your motorhome though

Fast94bird

Hazardous substance transportation deals with amounts. A 10lb of nitrous is not hazardous do to its amount. Just like you can carry gasoline for the lawnmowers, or race car. Now try to 500 gallons you will need a permit, vehicle markers etc. Nitrous laws are different everywhere, states, and counties can setup there own rules. Ever heard of a dry county, no beer, same thing here. One final thing is, if the cop is a dick or your a smart *** to them, they will find something to right you ticket or delay you and make your life suck.

jwilson

LOL...I will keep you updated and thanks so much. We live in Northern Kentucky but he got in the hit and run in Cincinnati Ohio, and well I am sure all of you know about Cincy cops...lol...

I could see needing a permit. I will have to find out all the details and yes he does have a lawyer because he is a short term memory loss goofball. He got this ticket before we started dating. He was seeing someone else at the time that was dragging him down. Well needless to say he didnt pay the fine and then last month got pulled over for speeding (go figure) and they arrested him. So, with the nitrous charge I told him he needed to get a lawyer (not including the speeding ticket and another ticket he forgot to pay). Anyhoo, it will all get straightened out either that or I already warned him to be careful and not to drop the soap...teee...hee..heee thanks for the help

860 Performance

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While we are on the topic.

Up here in NH, there are no laws restricting the use of nitrous oxide on the streets. You can spray all day long, or even purge in the police parking lot.

However.........your not 100% in the clear
There are laws that would make a newer cars not pass inspection when equiped with nitrous. So they could always get you on an equipment charge. Kinda strange, but thats the deal up here.

AZ28DRIVER1

In Maryland they will hit you two tickets. First, it is illegal to have it hooked up in your car if you are driving on the street. Second, If you have it in your car you have to display a sticker showing that you have it. At one of the race tracks around here the cops are notorious for sitting at the entry to track. They nail while you are on the street before you enter the tracks property. As street cars drive in they look for the bottle. Here is a couple of way you can get a ticket from them.

If you have the bottle hooked up and no stickers you get two tickets.
If the bottle is not hooked up and you don't have the sticker you get one ticket for not dsiplaying that you are carrying it.
Then if you have the sticker but the bottle is hooked up you get the ticket for having an illegal power adder.

I'll have to pull the exact code but I believe each infraction is 5 points and $275 fine

Squintz Palladoris

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Now that is some BS. Makes you not want to go to the track to race. Keep it on the street instead. Those cops are GAY!

Brad

jamnut

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Here are a couple of things to think about. But a little history first.

I'm a DOT certified Hazmat Specialist, which means I've been through all of the courses that allow me to be able to decipher CFR 49, which is the Code of Federal Regulations for Hazardous Material Transport.

When I go to my Hazardous Materials Table, Nitrous Oxide is there. Here is the skinny.

Nitrous Oxide, refrigerated liquid Hazard or Division 2.2 UN2201 Label Codes 2.2, blah blah blah, it goes on and on, you can't fly it in passenger aircraft, you can't even fly it in a cargo plane.

There is also a version just for nitrous gas, but most of us carry the liquid form.

For Federal regulations you should actually have a hazmat Placard on your car, just like you see on 18 wheelers. You should carry an MSDS to go with the Nitrous, you should also carry a filled out straight bill of lading. All of this might make you legal federally, but not on a state level. That's up to the states that you live in. But basically all of us are carrying nitrous illegally as per the DOT and Federal Regulations.

HAMRHEAD

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I used to transport Haz mat and if there was a small amount of material it wasn't necessary to placard the trailer. The whole point of that is for the safety of the firefighters and ems in case of accident. I'm not sure of the amount but I know 10lbs falls under the requirement to placard your vehicle. Fight the ticket the cops don't always know what they're doing with that stuff. If it was a state trooper or hwy cop he might have a little more knowledge on it. Good luck!

jamnut

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You may or may not have to placard for 10#'s. But there is no RQ ( Reportable Quantity ) for Nitrous, which means that if it's in your car you should have a Straight bill of lading & an MSDS.

I carry nitrous all the time, I sell nitrous, I carry a 50# bottle in my truck all the time, do I placard no, do I carry an MSDS no. I don't follow the rules, but I can state them. Remember since the Advent of 9-11 all of the Hazmat transport laws have been getting enforced more and more.

93LS1RX7

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Where did you hear that load of ****. In MD you can carry nitrous all day long in your vehicle if it is under 50lbs. Over 50lbs you have to have a placard. It is NOT illegal to transport nitrous and you dont need a sticker or placard unless it is over 50lbs. It is illegal to USE nitrous in MD so they may get you if it is hooked up because that shows intent.

It has nothing to do with being an illegal power adder either. Power adders are not illegal. It is illegal when you use something that states it is legal for offroad use only, could be a bumper higher than 18" nothing to do with poweradders.

DVCrazyCamTAWs6

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Found this in another Board

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I called up the CHP today and spoke with an officer in the Hazardous Materials group in Sacramento. Nice guy.

I asked him "Is it legal to have NOS installed on your car?"
A: Yes, provided that the bottle is securely mounted. The bottle must also be DOT approved. Once the bottle is connected, it is considered part of the fuel system and no additional hazmat regulations apply. He said to check with CARB regarding emissions regulations.

"Is it legal to have a disconnected NOS bottle in your car?"
A: Yes, but the bottle must either be empty, securely mounted, or securely held with the valve protected.

"Do you need to have hazmat placards and stickers on your car?"
A: No, provided you are carrying less than 220 or 440 lbs of it in your vehicle, the officer wasn't sure which. This falls under a a personal trade exemption. If you are using NOS for commercial purposes, you must have the placards on the vehicle.

"What about transporting the filled cylinders?"
A: This is the area the CHP is the most worried about. The short answer is that for modest quantities (< 220 or 440 lbs), the NOS cylinders may be transported unconnected in approved DOT containters provided the identitying labels are visible and legible, the bottles are secure, and the valves are protected.

So I asked him, "If I have NOS connected in my car with the bottle securely mounted, am I breaking any law if I am not using it?
A: None related to hazardous materials and none other that he was aware of.

GBLS6

i think isd against the law just by having it connected to your engine.