TARZAN

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IS it a bad idea to put a kit on a car with a 5.3 head swap (which raise compression), if all you've got is a predator to tune with?

Help me out quick if at all possible, I'm trying to get some info for a buddy of mine, so he doesn't talk himself outta it lol...

Thanks,

-Will

Matt@HSW

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Nope, not a bad idea at all. If you added timing with the predator then pull it when you spray and run a set of colder plugs, like NGK TR-6s.

Matt

NitrousDirect

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Keep in mind when you go to pull back timing using the predator, that you're only pulling back a % of what the predator added.. you're not actually removing or adding full degress.

TARZAN

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Thanks guys, I'll have to see if he even knows that about the % thing...I don't even own a predator, so I don't know all the logistics of one....

He got some plugs, but it seems like he said a different # (though they are NGK), I'll check into that,

Thanks,

-Will

Robert56

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Also, don't worry about the higher comp ratio, as n2o loves compression.
Robert

CAT3

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Will, are you sure this isn't your new LS1? You know a friend of mine stories...

Have the predator tune adjust max advance to 25* which will net good NA and 125 shot and lower results, or at least as a base to start from.

TARZAN

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Robert,

I wasn't sure, thanks

Charlie,

Nah, only thing I have for my car is a lid and a muffler my man, sorry.....But none of us around here know anything about predators at all...All he's messed with, from what he says, are the shift points (its an auto obviously), shift firmness, and the rev limiter...He's not comfortable with messing with the timing or anything...I'll point him your way though!!!!

-Will

00SS4780

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No problems here with the heads. Spray on! Carefully that is!

Matt@HSW

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Or pick up a LS1 timing tuner to pull some timing when you spray. That way you can run all the timing you added NA and oly pull it when you spray.

Matt

turborail

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Install a small fuel tank and use Alcohol as the enrichment fuel. That works really good. I have a lot of friends who have done that and a great example is my roomate who has a stock engine with 140,000 miles and just ran cheap gas and did nothing to the tune and put 175 hp jets to it. It worked killer and was used all the time. There aren't a lot of people who do it but it does work good especially if you are on the edge of detonation naturally aspirated.

paper doll

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i think nos is a cheap shot,( no pun intented) i think a street car desevers more, not to say anything to the ppl who already have them , no offense this is my opinon, if you want that kinda power consistantly without blowing up your car , get a blower, not that i dotn enviey those ppl who can purge onto a civic ahhh, maybe a co2 tank?

TARZAN

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Matt,

Sorry, I'm not familiar with that?

turborail,

Are your referring to methanol injection, or something like it?

betty,

This isn't my arguement

-Will

NitrousDirect

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Methanol injection can be good but it is hard on seals, rubber, corrosive etc but does have an octane rating of 140 !

Robert56

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Very true, and in addition, you can get special noids for alcohol, methanol and other exotics. I know NOS has them, not sure if any of the site vendors do.
Robert

turborail

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No I was talking about using a wet nitrous system where you inject nitrous and fuel into the engine and you have a nitrous and fuel solenoid (not a dry system where you only have a nitrous solenoid). However instead of running your normal fuel to the fuel solenoid you install a seperate fuel small fuel tank to run just the fuel to the fuel solenoid. In this extra tank you can run Methanol. It takes a special plunger in the solenoid because the stock fuel solenoid has a viton or rubber style seal that isn't alcohol compatable. If it wasn't a really large system then you could probably just use a large nitrous solenoid because they have teflon seals which are compatable with alcohol but you have to make sure they will flow enough alcohol. It works really good but alcohol does have some downfalls and requires a little more work. You could also put some super high octane racing fuel in the seperate tank. Alcohol does work good though because it doesnt' detonate very easily and it can even be a little on the rich side without killing power as much as gasoline. The alcohol does require some special stuff on the fuel system. An alcohol compatable fuel pump and no raw aluminum fuel lines or fittings because they will corrode.

Matt@HSW

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Hey Will,

It's a pretty cool box. It will allow to retard timing only when you use the juice. It also has a built in window switch. For more info on it check out our website:

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/shop...age=1&featured

Matt

TARZAN

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Thanks a million guys!

-Will

jamnut

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Will just pull the predator tune to be safe if you want. IMHO stay away from the timing tuner, mine lasted about 3 month's, Travis's lasted 0 month's.

If you are going to run the predator tune, just pull some timing with it.

XTrooper

I totally agree!

As far as the nitrous is concerned, Just do it! You'll be glad you did!

TARZAN

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Benjy,

I left you a voicemail my man...about to PM ya...

-Will