nozzle shootout
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Man I have had to do alot of reading to catch up!!! A TNT nozzle is on the way so you can count us in, and it will accept the NX jets that are going to be tested.. Now unfortunately the shank on the NX jet is shorter than ours so we will have a little expansion area, other than that we are going to love this test cause it will all boil down to the nitrous nozzle design.. And speaking of which, I have visited several Nitrous companys web sites and they seem to talk about how great there nozzle is but are to scared to show detailed pics of the nozzle tip.. This I dont understand this?? Because if you spent alot of time developing a product you should show it off, in my oppinion.. Then again some say others will just rip its design, and that is why we have patents and lawyers to fix those kind of issues.. Now I will say that the tests are not going to be extremely accurate but they will give a good ball park of what each company has to offer the consumer. So do we want to start taking bets on the top 2 companys that will dominate this test?? Anyways a nozzle is to cheap, this is going to be fun in my oppinion.. I think this test wont show much on the hp side of the nozzle but the tq is determined by the way the nozzle controls the fuel, my .02.. Thanks David @TNT
NOS is in if you want to test them. We have two nozzles that I will send. We will have to modify the jet adapters to fit the NX jets but we should be able to accomplish that.
I've read through this entire long drama and it seems to be fair enough. Like has been said before the entire package is where it is. Nozzle design versus placement also has an effect and I'm sure that will skew some results. Either way I don't think anyone is going to get slammed so it doesn't matter.
Jessie
I've read through this entire long drama and it seems to be fair enough. Like has been said before the entire package is where it is. Nozzle design versus placement also has an effect and I'm sure that will skew some results. Either way I don't think anyone is going to get slammed so it doesn't matter.
Jessie
Originally Posted by David@TNT
Man I have had to do alot of reading to catch up!!! A TNT nozzle is on the way so you can count us in, and it will accept the NX jets that are going to be tested.. Now unfortunately the shank on the NX jet is shorter than ours so we will have a little expansion area, other than that we are going to love this test cause it will all boil down to the nitrous nozzle design.. And speaking of which, I have visited several Nitrous companys web sites and they seem to talk about how great there nozzle is but are to scared to show detailed pics of the nozzle tip.. This I dont understand this?? Because if you spent alot of time developing a product you should show it off, in my oppinion.. Then again some say others will just rip its design, and that is why we have patents and lawyers to fix those kind of issues.. Now I will say that the tests are not going to be extremely accurate but they will give a good ball park of what each company has to offer the consumer. So do we want to start taking bets on the top 2 companys that will dominate this test?? Anyways a nozzle is to cheap, this is going to be fun in my oppinion.. I think this test wont show much on the hp side of the nozzle but the tq is determined by the way the nozzle controls the fuel, my .02.. Thanks David @TNT
Just to clarify before somone gets confused....you cant have more TQ without more HP at a given RPM. you can have more peak TQ at some rpm (usually lower rpms) and end up with the same peak HP.
But just for clarification...you cant have two setups dynoing 550 rwhp at 5000 rpm but one is 525 rwtq and the other is 575 rwtq at that 5000 rpm. If the HP is the same at the same rpm...then tq will be identical as well.
I just wanted to clarify the discussion. TQ and HP are thrown around so much i think some may get lost on occasion. You alwasy have to clarify at what rpm.
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Verdad Gallardo what i think he was getting at was initial torque. you can have more torque at say 3500 rpms than another one with the peak hp being near the same. as shown here back when i did the nx vs ny-trex nozzle
Not to cloud the issue because this is a nozzle shootout, but just as a little extra "bonus" is there anyway you could do just one addional test using Dave's new plate, just to see how this new approach (for LS1s anyway) stands up against the nozzles. (You would already have everything set up)
By the way, thanks for taking the initiative on this, I, for one, am looking forward to the results.
By the way, thanks for taking the initiative on this, I, for one, am looking forward to the results.
I am sorry if I sound stupid but I have a question or two....
Is the purpose of this test to see how well the nozzle atomizes the mixture or just test which flows better? If it is to test which flows better, wouldnt a jet size change make up for any inefficiencies for a particular nozzle? I would think the atomization is more important than the flow...am I looking at this wrong?
Is the purpose of this test to see how well the nozzle atomizes the mixture or just test which flows better? If it is to test which flows better, wouldnt a jet size change make up for any inefficiencies for a particular nozzle? I would think the atomization is more important than the flow...am I looking at this wrong?
Last edited by dwayneracing; Mar 28, 2006 at 02:28 PM.
Originally Posted by mrr23
plain and simple. it's to see who's makes what. with all this our nozzle is better than your nozzle threads going around, i decided to put them to the test.
Robert
