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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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l have a 2002 z06 stock with just a zip tie and k&n filter. i dont know which would work better for me i want to live it stock with just the nitrous thanks for the help.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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if you want to spray a decent size shot with a dry kit (over 100), you will need larger injectors which will also require a PCM tune to the IFR table. Dry has less hardware and is cheaper but you wind up spending more on the injectors/tune.

With up to a 150 shot with a wet kit, you will not need to do any other mods to support it. Both we and dry will need colder spark plugs though.

IMO, I like wet better, but there are plenty of people out there that love dry systems. I say go 150 wet and be done with it.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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Old May 15, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by andres85
l have a 2002 z06 stock with just a zip tie and k&n filter. i dont know which would work better for me i want to live it stock with just the nitrous thanks for the help.
The age old question. The answer is a nitrous system will give you an inexpensive power adder when compared to other power adder systems. MOst of the people here like using nitrous and are VERY opionated when it comes to dry vs wet. Keep it simple sounds like your plan. If that's what you want to do then a simple wet kit is probably for you. Not that it's simpler than a dry kit in the number of parts, because you do need the fuel solenoid, but because shot for shot, hp gain for hp gain, it will be easier to balance your nitrous and fuel requirements for said gain. Very little tuning, if any will be required past a colder plug, will be suggested in the 100-150 wet shot range. What you add to the base system is up to you. Examples are the purge and heater.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Really Depends on what your ultimate goals are for the car.. and what kind of a person you are. Meaning are you going to be happy and ok with a roof on your performance or do you want unlimited type performance where as your needs grow so can your jetting.

Dry you're limited to the 100-125 range, generally due to your injectors and fuel pump

Wet over 150 you'll want a high flow fuel pump, but after that you motor allowing you can spray what ever you want and play with your a/f along the way..

Is this just a street play toy, or a weekend warrior..
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Old May 15, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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daily driver, i dont want to spend money in mods i had that experience in my last car spend a lot of money and many parts star to brake down after a while. i just want to add another 100 hp.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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so would i be fine if i just use 100 shot on a stock car with stock injectors and fuel pump? with the dry kit.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:25 PM
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On my camaro, I started with a dry kit pegging the MAF for fuel, I started at a 100shot and was extremely rich, then went up to a 125, and still in the 10s A/F, then bumped up to a 150shot and was sitting at Low 11's A/F. I ran the 150 for a year, about 18-20 15lb bottles, and had 0 problems on stock injectors with a stock pump. Multiple times(6-8times), when I really needed to win, i ran a 180 shot, and was still in the high 11's A/F. Maybe my camaro was a freak, but thats my experiance.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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I'd say Freak! LOL

Anyways from your response I think you'll be happy with a dry shot, either way you'll be happy but a dry shot should be a pretty nice setup for what you need and want
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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i really appreciate you answers thanks.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by andres85
i really appreciate you answers thanks.
i Bought a Pro dry kit from Nitrous Direct, put that along with a heater, and opener in my 03 Z06, it has a black wing air filter, and thats it.
with a 100 shot it ran over 125 at the track!!! went 128 and 127 on a couple passes.

it came with just about everything, and works MINT!
just food for thought, but i have it, and love it, its a nice addition to the z06, helps us keep up with the new ones. lol
good luck, hope this helps
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Old May 16, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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No matter which system you go with have the airfuel checked.If you go with a wet system you can adjust the airfuel by changing out the fuel jet. If you go with a dry system you will need pcm tunning to cheange the airfuel. If I can help you with any technical help let me know.Im just right down the road from you in Waco.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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i have the dyno tune dry kit, i am running a 100 dry with just lid and catback. i have had no problems. it was a great deal on the kit and i am going to upgrade to a wet later down the line. but with what you are saying you will definatly be happy with a dry kit ..........for now!!
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Old May 16, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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What the hell! Run both, its twice as fun and stimulates the economy

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Originally Posted by Kolk1
On my camaro, I started with a dry kit pegging the MAF for fuel, I started at a 100shot and was extremely rich, then went up to a 125, and still in the 10s A/F, then bumped up to a 150shot and was sitting at Low 11's A/F. I ran the 150 for a year, about 18-20 15lb bottles, and had 0 problems on stock injectors with a stock pump. Multiple times(6-8times), when I really needed to win, i ran a 180 shot, and was still in the high 11's A/F. Maybe my camaro was a freak, but thats my experiance.
No freak, 480rwhp 500rwtorque on stock injectors, stock pump stock long block, only plugs. Of course it was a dry hit. 150 passes, from 100 to 200hp shots and absolutly no issues what so ever concerning the engine or n2o system. Really, it's very hard to hurt your motor running a dry hit, actually try to find somone. Many, many are running the dry hits on the Z06's with great results, this is cause the tune is very conducive to the dry hit with stock tune: meaning, comes tuned rich, and about 22/24* of timing. It's a given on your Z06 running a 100rwhp dry hit you'll be quicker than 11.5, seen it many times. Now am I against wet kits, not at all, but from my experiance, dry will have less issues, like, the fuel plunger sswelling issue that is starting to pop up more and more because of the crappy gas additives, and it is only going to get worse. Our PRO dry kit is the premium dry kit on the market, and was speced with the vette in mind. Based on your input yes a dry would be ideal for you, imo. Check out my web site for insight on the Z06 and dry kits, also see the links section for good info. I can link you to the PRO Dry intor thread if you like. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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No freak, 480rwhp 500rwtorque on stock injectors, stock pump stock long block, only plugs. Of course it was a dry hit. 150 passes, from 100 to 200hp shots and absolutly no issues what so ever concerning the engine or n2o system. Really, it's very hard to hurt your motor running a dry hit, actually try to find somone. Many, many are running the dry hits on the Z06's with great results, this is cause the tune is very conducive to the dry hit with stock tune: meaning, comes tuned rich, and about 22/24* of timing. It's a given on your Z06 running a 100rwhp dry hit you'll be quicker than 11.5, seen it many times. Now am I against wet kits, not at all, but from my experiance, dry will have less issues, like, the fuel plunger sswelling issue that is starting to pop up more and more because of the crappy gas additives, and it is only going to get worse. Our PRO dry kit is the premium dry kit on the market, and was speced with the vette in mind. Based on your input yes a dry would be ideal for you, imo. Check out my web site for insight on the Z06 and dry kits, also see the links section for good info. I can link you to the PRO Dry intor thread if you like. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
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so with this dry kit i dont have to get a tune with just a 100 shot.? thanks for the info.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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so with this dry kit i dont have to get a tune with just a 100 shot.? thanks for the info.
No you don't have to.
You will need to remove the screen from your MAF if it has one.
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Originally Posted by white2001s10
No you don't have to.
You will need to remove the screen from your MAF if it has one.
i didnt even do that
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Old May 17, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by andres85
so with this dry kit i dont have to get a tune with just a 100 shot.? thanks for the info.
Like was said, no tune needed. My buddy in his '03 Z06 ran a 11.48 on absolutly stock, even the plugs. He did have drag radials though. His best n/a was low 12's.
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