COLD intake with dryice...w/ pics!
Originally Posted by Camaro94SS
What about the old school trick of runnig your fuellines through a coffe can with dryice in it? Are you calling bullshit on that one too?
yes, you want cold air not cold fuel
Originally Posted by Camaro94SS
What about the old school trick of runnig your fuellines through a coffe can with dryice in it? Are you calling bullshit on that one too?
If you look inside those cans, the fuel lines coil up. That would leave the fuel in the cold can for MUCH longer then if you just had a straight line going through it. The coils give the fuel enough time to be effected by the cold outside the lines.
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Yeah, that makes a little more sense...atleast someone knew about that old school trick...lol apparently orange SS had no clue...but yeah the coiled up lines make sense...its a really great trick if you can do it...
orange ss....when you freeze gas,or make it cold,the molecules become slower and when molecules become slower they dont bounce off of each other and become more compact,hence letting more gas molecules enter the combustion chamber,making more horsies.....if done right...
orange ss....when you freeze gas,or make it cold,the molecules become slower and when molecules become slower they dont bounce off of each other and become more compact,hence letting more gas molecules enter the combustion chamber,making more horsies.....if done right...
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lolol....you must not go to the track much eh? go ask some some of the elders at the track,some promod guys, ask them about it... 
lol and sense when does gas turn into pudding when you cool it??? lmao, no wonder your in the nitrous forum,thats all you have modded isnt it
lol and sense when does gas turn into pudding when you cool it??? lmao, no wonder your in the nitrous forum,thats all you have modded isnt it
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Originally Posted by oange ss
everything you stated is complete horseshit...you get better, more consistant atomization with hot fuel...try sprayin pudding thru a spray bottle and let me know how it works
While I dont think you are going to see a huge improvement chilling the fuel before you spray it into your intake, it does pose possible that colder fuel would be able to withstand the extreme heat of the combustion chamber longer (if only slightly) before it ignites. Same principle with cooling the air going into the combustion chamber.
If it was complete horse ****, then Jegs would sell fuel heating canisters instead of fuel cooling canisters.
Originally Posted by Camaro94SS
lolol....you must not go to the track much eh? go ask some some of the elders at the track,some promod guys, ask them about it...
lol and sense when does gas turn into pudding when you cool it??? lmao, no wonder your in the nitrous forum,thats all you have modded isnt it
lol and sense when does gas turn into pudding when you cool it??? lmao, no wonder your in the nitrous forum,thats all you have modded isnt it
is this guy for real?
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Cooling fuel isnt really gunna gain you any power in and of its self. If you need more fuel cooling the fuel down will allow you to get more fuel in but the idea isnt to get as much fuel as possable in there othewise we would all be running 100# injectors. If you take the proper amount of fuel and put it in cold(poorly atomized) vs warm(well atomized) your gunna be better off with the warm.
Originally Posted by Camaro94SS
lol by placebo...did you mean pseudo effect lolol
and i drove the car before,with it on,then directly after i took it back off
no "pseudo effect" there
lololand i drove the car before,with it on,then directly after i took it back off
no "pseudo effect" there
It won't work. It would cool the air if you use an intercooler set up to do it, but then you'd be losing so much airflow that it wouldn't matter.
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camaro94ss is right, when molecules cool, the atoms condense becuase they dont bounce off each other. Theoretically if you could get the same amount of fuel in a smaller space there is more room for either more oxygen (more atomization) or more fuel. But on the other hand a 'thicker' more condensed fuel won't atomize as well, which is why the structural formula of any gasoline is spread out. depends which side of the coin you look at whether it will work or not.. the dyno is the only thing that will tell. Our Chem. teacher went over all this crap last yr. which is the only reason i know it. Hes wicked smart
Originally Posted by CockerKid009
camaro94ss is right, when molecules cool, the atoms condense becuase they dont bounce off each other. Theoretically if you could get the same amount of fuel in a smaller space there is more room for either more oxygen (more atomization) or more fuel. But on the other hand a 'thicker' more condensed fuel won't atomize as well, which is why the structural formula of any gasoline is spread out. depends which side of the coin you look at whether it will work or not.. the dyno is the only thing that will tell. Our Chem. teacher went over all this crap last yr. which is the only reason i know it. Hes wicked smart
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ive been reading everything you've said,your just not educating at all lol....seems liek your knowlegable,but just not right now =(.....if you knew how the fuel lines in coffee can worked,you'd understand
You have to have extra fuel line,and you coil 3-4 feet of it inside of a coffe can,therefore the fuel is inside the "cooler" long enough to take in the effect
You have to have extra fuel line,and you coil 3-4 feet of it inside of a coffe can,therefore the fuel is inside the "cooler" long enough to take in the effect
I do like the humour of someone with no knowledge in fluid dynamics making smart remarks to a bunch of people who were initially just trying to help him out.
The theory SOUNDS good, make the air cooler and make more power. That's dead on correct. The PROBLEM is that you're not accomplishing that in any significant way. A well functioning cool air (non engine heated) intake system will net many times the gain of the "system" you've designed here. Wrapping the intake tract to avoid any heat soak would be approximately equal to what you've done here; the O2 density of air cooled down the 2-3* (being very optimistic) you're accomplshing here, is not going to produce a measurable increase in HP.
It's fun to play around with ideas like this, but there's no need to get in people's faces when they explain to you why your concept is faulty.
edit: Your fuel theory is sound, but a better fuel pump is a lot simpler way to accomplish those means.
The theory SOUNDS good, make the air cooler and make more power. That's dead on correct. The PROBLEM is that you're not accomplishing that in any significant way. A well functioning cool air (non engine heated) intake system will net many times the gain of the "system" you've designed here. Wrapping the intake tract to avoid any heat soak would be approximately equal to what you've done here; the O2 density of air cooled down the 2-3* (being very optimistic) you're accomplshing here, is not going to produce a measurable increase in HP.
It's fun to play around with ideas like this, but there's no need to get in people's faces when they explain to you why your concept is faulty.
edit: Your fuel theory is sound, but a better fuel pump is a lot simpler way to accomplish those means.
