Proper nozzle placement on a Z28/TA airlid ???
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I have noticed a few posts stating that nozzle placement for dry shots is critical for the proper air/fuel ratio. I have a 98 Z28 with an MTI airlid. It is basically the same design as all of the other Z28/TA LS1 airlids. I am currently installing a single nozzle HSW dry kit. I will most likely be starting with the 75 shot and then possibly the 100 shot.
My question is, what is the best location on the airlid to install the nozzle? Also at what angle? Any pics would be appreciated. I was able to find some pics of Corvette airlids w/ dry kits, but that only helps so much. THANKS.
My question is, what is the best location on the airlid to install the nozzle? Also at what angle? Any pics would be appreciated. I was able to find some pics of Corvette airlids w/ dry kits, but that only helps so much. THANKS.
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In the neck about 3 to 4 inches from the MAF. Point it directly at MAF. Then if it's a little rich you can just rotate the nozzle slightly to fine tune a/f. What nozzle are you using? a 90*? If you get it to far away it will have a tendancy to be lean, then computer is the way to tune.
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
In the neck about 3 to 4 inches from the MAF. Point it directly at MAF. Then if it's a little rich you can just rotate the nozzle slightly to fine tune a/f. What nozzle are you using? a 90*? If you get it to far away it will have a tendancy to be lean, then computer is the way to tune.
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No actually the 70* work's well in most cases.
It will not harm the wires and will not freeze the wires. This is how you get a good cold/dense reading. The basic rule is, closer equals richer and farther away equals leaner. The close nozzles can be adjusted for a/f by simply rotating, whereas, to far away and you must go into pcm to compansate with additional fuel.
Look at my nozzles in pic below. They are about 3 inches from maf, and I have sprayed over 200 passes and all the way up to 250rwhp and have had "0" issues with MAF. A/f is stable in the 11.5:1 area on hits up to max so far on first stage of 170rwhp. This is a known spot that works well for all.
It will not harm the wires and will not freeze the wires. This is how you get a good cold/dense reading. The basic rule is, closer equals richer and farther away equals leaner. The close nozzles can be adjusted for a/f by simply rotating, whereas, to far away and you must go into pcm to compansate with additional fuel.
Look at my nozzles in pic below. They are about 3 inches from maf, and I have sprayed over 200 passes and all the way up to 250rwhp and have had "0" issues with MAF. A/f is stable in the 11.5:1 area on hits up to max so far on first stage of 170rwhp. This is a known spot that works well for all.
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Some Picts:
http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/gall...s.php?album=36
http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/gall...s.php?album=32
Both using our 70 degree exit nozzles and good A/F ratio.
Let me know if you guys have any other questions.
Thanks,
Matt
http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/gall...s.php?album=36
http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/gall...s.php?album=32
Both using our 70 degree exit nozzles and good A/F ratio.
Let me know if you guys have any other questions.
Thanks,
Matt
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mrr23, did you index the nozzle? Also, maybe try cleaning your maf wires. At this far away it still should give the numbers, and actually should be a little high if anything from a slightly leaner condition compared to being a little closer in the optimum location. Maybe it's the nozzle? Anyway, that's a sorry gain, and something is up? Try a set of known good dual nozzles and you should be fine, as long as MAF wires aren't coated with oil/gunk. Do you run an oiled filter?
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i had it pointed directly at the neck. hven't cleaned hte MAF in sometime. still has the screen on it as well. yes, i have a k/n filter. maybe bring the bottle pressure up some more. ican always just jet up as well. then again, might be good that it's low. can launch easier with it.
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Originally Posted by mrr23
i had it pointed directly at the neck. hven't cleaned hte MAF in sometime. still has the screen on it as well. yes, i have a k/n filter. maybe bring the bottle pressure up some more. ican always just jet up as well. then again, might be good that it's low. can launch easier with it.
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
No actually the 70* work's well in most cases.
It will not harm the wires and will not freeze the wires. This is how you get a good cold/dense reading. The basic rule is, closer equals richer and farther away equals leaner. The close nozzles can be adjusted for a/f by simply rotating, whereas, to far away and you must go into pcm to compansate with additional fuel.
Look at my nozzles in pic below. They are about 3 inches from maf, and I have sprayed over 200 passes and all the way up to 250rwhp and have had "0" issues with MAF. A/f is stable in the 11.5:1 area on hits up to max so far on first stage of 170rwhp. This is a known spot that works well for all.
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It will not harm the wires and will not freeze the wires. This is how you get a good cold/dense reading. The basic rule is, closer equals richer and farther away equals leaner. The close nozzles can be adjusted for a/f by simply rotating, whereas, to far away and you must go into pcm to compansate with additional fuel.
Look at my nozzles in pic below. They are about 3 inches from maf, and I have sprayed over 200 passes and all the way up to 250rwhp and have had "0" issues with MAF. A/f is stable in the 11.5:1 area on hits up to max so far on first stage of 170rwhp. This is a known spot that works well for all.
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Originally Posted by SSkeet
Is the MAF stock or did you mod it? I would think with a hit this big, it would have maxed the MAF way below the size shots you are running ![Icon Confused](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_confused.gif)
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Originally Posted by Robert56@NitrousDirect
Bone stock MAF, and currently am running a 250rwhp shot, which soon will be 285, then the magical 300rwhp shot in 3 stages.
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