View Poll Results: WHich system do you like???
TNT
23
27.71%
NOS
10
12.05%
Nitrous Express
41
49.40%
Zex
9
10.84%
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Which Wet system should I go with??
What are you looking for as far as system style?
Carb or EFI
Plate or Directport
If EFI Single nozzle, plate, or maff kit
Do you want customer service after the sale? Tech help, Warrenty help,
Are you shoping buy price or quality?
These are some things to ask you self.... Answer these and Ill share my input...
Dave
Carb or EFI
Plate or Directport
If EFI Single nozzle, plate, or maff kit
Do you want customer service after the sale? Tech help, Warrenty help,
Are you shoping buy price or quality?
These are some things to ask you self.... Answer these and Ill share my input...
Dave
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i am looking for a wet kit for my LS1 like a single nozzle or a throttle body plate for a 50-150 shot.
I mainly going to spray a 100 shot right now. I am lookin a price and quality
I mainly going to spray a 100 shot right now. I am lookin a price and quality
Last edited by ncd1966; May 16, 2007 at 11:39 AM.
I bought my kit from nitrous outlet and had a few issues with my purge. NX wouldn't return my calls and as soon as Dave heard that........bam he was all over it and I got a new purge through his hard work and dedication. I haven't had an issue since.
I strongly recommend Nitrous Outlet. There customer service is second to none.............and I truely mean that!
I strongly recommend Nitrous Outlet. There customer service is second to none.............and I truely mean that!
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Originally Posted by ncd1966
i am looking for a wet kit for my LS1 like a single nozzle or a throttle body plate for a 50-150 shot.
I mainly going to spray a 100 shot right now. I am lookin a price and quality
I mainly going to spray a 100 shot right now. I am lookin a price and quality
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=115
The quality and price is second to none. We use what we have found to be the most reliable solonoid and best performing solonoid on the market. Our solonoid lines use a 1/8" NPT fitting on one end so the line screws right into your solonoids no messy extra fittings taking away from a clean install. The lines are also 2' long to give you flexibility in your installation. As mentioned above dont skimp on quality or service you will pay for it in the end.
Dean
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Originally Posted by DynotuneN2O
We use what we have found to be the most reliable solonoid and best performing solonoid on the market. Dean
Originally Posted by myfast70
I'm not trying to take this off subject or be a smart ***, but how did you come up with the above statement? What differentiates your product from others such as the NX noids? They have a billet base (I haven't seen another one like it), special plungerss that stand up a bit longer. I would like to see some of the research that you have done on this. What determined it to be the "best performing" ? Did you measure cycle life? Solenoid efficiency? Heat transfer? Plunger life? I am doing two installs right now (one carb and one EFI) and am looking for the most reliable parts on the market. I don mind paying extra for extra quality! Thanks for your help! I am subscribing to this thread to see you research results and information to back the above statement.
One thing you guys allways fail to see is the marketing/advertising costs of the big nitrous companies. Whereas, the smaller companies can offer direct sales to the end user with out the inflated costs. Does this mean their products are of a lesser quality, hardly. The old saying, "You get what you pay for", only goes so far these days. With the advent of the internet and direct sales, and no middle man, some companies are posied to take off. So don't believe all the hype about our products cost so much more than others because they are better, it's just a marketing ploy, and mostly hype. All of the site vendors offer fine products, just pick your choice, and they all offer great service to boot. Another ploy, implying that somehow only this brand X company offers follow up service and not the others.
Robert
Originally Posted by Robert56
...and somehow you believe that an oxidating billet aluminum base is somehow better than stainless steel? Most all noids now use the updated plunger material to be compatible with Ethonol in the fuels.
One thing you guys allways fail to see is the marketing/advertising costs of the big nitrous companies. Whereas, the smaller companies can offer direct sales to the end user with out the inflated costs. Does this mean their products are of a lesser quality, hardly. The old saying, "You get what you pay for", only goes so far these days. With the advent of the internet and direct sales, and no middle man, some companies are posied to take off. So don't believe all the hype about our products cost so much more than others because they are better, it's just a marketing ploy, and mostly hype. All of the site vendors offer fine products, just pick your choice, and they all offer great service to boot. Another ploy, implying that somehow only this brand X company offers follow up service and not the others.
Robert
One thing you guys allways fail to see is the marketing/advertising costs of the big nitrous companies. Whereas, the smaller companies can offer direct sales to the end user with out the inflated costs. Does this mean their products are of a lesser quality, hardly. The old saying, "You get what you pay for", only goes so far these days. With the advent of the internet and direct sales, and no middle man, some companies are posied to take off. So don't believe all the hype about our products cost so much more than others because they are better, it's just a marketing ploy, and mostly hype. All of the site vendors offer fine products, just pick your choice, and they all offer great service to boot. Another ploy, implying that somehow only this brand X company offers follow up service and not the others.
Robert
Originally Posted by Robert56
..Hi Dean. The reason we offer the 400hp noid is not so much because everyone is going to run a 400hp hit, but rather for the amp rating and coil build. What this means is a less chance of failure. The main reason a noid fails is contaminate based, and a higher amperage stronger noid has a less chance of sticking open or closed. I have had many of the smaller noids fail when two things happen, heat of engine bay, and excessive bottle pressure form rising interior temps. The reason they failed is because they are low amp weak noids that are built on the border line and any time you go past the set parameters, bingo-no workie. I have had this myself and seen this with a few brands of noids, actually 3 different brands come to mind in my own experiance. I now choose to run the NX Stage 6 Lightning noids for these very reasons. The PRo Noids are going on my 3rd stage wet.
By the way, the NX research and development is one the best in the industry and a main reason for their higher cost.
Nothing personal against your kits, by the way. Just putting some of my opinions out there like I normally do, and let the buyers be the judge on what they want to purchase. I do know that for a certain amount of guys, that cost is a factor, and a base kit can be a great way to get introduced to n2o. But, if we all do our home work, often times a base kit ends up costing more when you consider what it's missing and what you really want/need. So buying a mid priced kit can sometimes be a center ground for needs.
The reason we offer the 400hp noid is not so much because everyone is going to run a 400hp hit, but rather for the amp rating and coil build. What this means is a less chance of failure. The main reason a noid fails is contaminate based, and a higher amperage stronger noid has a less chance of sticking open or closed. I have had many of the smaller noids fail when two things happen, heat of engine bay, and excessive bottle pressure form rising interior temps. The reason they failed is because they are low amp weak noids that are built on the border line and any time you go past the set parameters, bingo-no workie. I have had this myself and seen this with a few brands of noids, actually 3 different brands come to mind in my own experiance. I now choose to run the NX Stage 6 Lightning noids for these very reasons. The PRo Noids are going on my 3rd stage wet. By the way, the NX research and development is one the best in the industry and a main reason for their higher cost.
Nothing personal against your kits, by the way. Just putting some of my opinions out there like I normally do, and let the buyers be the judge on what they want to purchase. I do know that for a certain amount of guys, that cost is a factor, and a base kit can be a great way to get introduced to n2o. But, if we all do our home work, often times a base kit ends up costing more when you consider what it's missing and what you really want/need. So buying a mid priced kit can sometimes be a center ground for needs.
Make up your mind.
Plus to say "big companies" spend too much on marketing and advertising is completely false. You have no idea what their marketing budget is, nor do you know what impact that has on pricing.
Advertising is an investment, if a company spends $1 on advertising and it generates sales that return $2 in profit, then there is obviously no negative impact on the end user.
Keep your posts to facts please, not opinions on how people should run their busineses.
Vinny
Last edited by 860 Performance; May 26, 2007 at 07:46 AM.
I've been very happy with the service I've receivved from Nitro Dave and from Dynotune. I run NX, Nitrous Outlet(Nitro Dave) and Dyno tune systems in my car.
Robert has provided very helpful information as well, regardless of what vendor he's friends with. His knowledge and experience are very helpful and insightful.
Robert has provided very helpful information as well, regardless of what vendor he's friends with. His knowledge and experience are very helpful and insightful.
First off, the only referel to NX was the comparison of the bases, alum vs SS. Their are other high priced companies out there, like NOS, TNT and others, so thinking that I am talking about your choosen NX, is really off base.
Vinny, I run the NX Stage 6 noids, and choose these as the best noids on the market. I paid full price for these. Now, not everyone has the money for these noids, so showing/stating that you can get a quality product for less $$ does not seem contridictary to me. I see no where that I changed my opinion. Look at some of the other companies coming out with innovative products, at a cost less than what NX does. NX stuff is fine, and I have never said otherwise. However, for much less money there are many products nipping at the heels of NX.
I can see where you might have got the wrong impression, by comparing the billet base to SS base. Just throughing some insight out for others to ponder. Really the only advantge alum has over SS is in the weight dept. Of course the lazer etching is a bonus, as is the carbon fiber cap, but both just for cosmetics, imo. Oh and they have bottom outlets, which I have utilized.
Robert
Vinny, I run the NX Stage 6 noids, and choose these as the best noids on the market. I paid full price for these. Now, not everyone has the money for these noids, so showing/stating that you can get a quality product for less $$ does not seem contridictary to me. I see no where that I changed my opinion. Look at some of the other companies coming out with innovative products, at a cost less than what NX does. NX stuff is fine, and I have never said otherwise. However, for much less money there are many products nipping at the heels of NX.
I can see where you might have got the wrong impression, by comparing the billet base to SS base. Just throughing some insight out for others to ponder. Really the only advantge alum has over SS is in the weight dept. Of course the lazer etching is a bonus, as is the carbon fiber cap, but both just for cosmetics, imo. Oh and they have bottom outlets, which I have utilized.
Robert
Originally Posted by myfast70
^^^^^^ NICE FIND with the quotes ^^^^^^ It's amazing how the flavor of the week changes for some people.
Now please explain what you exactly mean by changing the flavor of the week, do you mean because I went from NOS to NX, well not everyone runs what you think they should run.
Robert
Come on you guys. I have a whole bunch more, on middle men and price gouging, and not directed at any company but in general. Mucho more to this than meets the eye to the causual user, kind of an insiders point of view. Lets go.
Robert
Robert