715 Rwhp Stock Bottom End Ws6
#41
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Launching!
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I know, that is why I have my 408 to play with. Also it wasnt tuned to be ran at such a high PSI. Hint, the afr and stuff. I think that I have hit it 2 times including that time at that high of a psi. I like to spray at about 1100. It hits so hard and then you can stay in it longer before the bottle pressure drops below 900.
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#42
IM SORRY I HAVE TO WAIVE THE bs FLAG! No way a 150 shot makes 300 to the wheels nitrous gets less dense with more pressure. What jets do you have in it. Id like to see the run on a loaded dyno. it would pop @ 12.5 making 730.
Id almost guarantee this guy rockin 2 62 jets and calling it the 150 shot instead of 44's or 42's
Id almost guarantee this guy rockin 2 62 jets and calling it the 150 shot instead of 44's or 42's
#44
Originally Posted by haighter
If you would like me to prove it I will prove it if there is a place that I can take it and some one is willing to pay for a few new pounds and the pull.
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let me know how i can prove it to you. letting you know that I am selling the parts off of it and pulling the motor. I was supposed to start on it after the dyno day to see how the block looked. I can wait till monday to take it apart if I can frind a place that I can pull the motor out of my car.
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#46
Originally Posted by haighter
let me know how i can prove it to you. letting you know that I am selling the parts off of it and pulling the motor. I was supposed to start on it after the dyno day to see how the block looked. I can wait till monday to take it apart if I can frind a place that I can pull the motor out of my car.
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What jets do you have ...again. You can't prove it to me. and if it was real you wouldn't care to. I have sprayed enough nitrous and dynoed 100 fbodys. I know what they do.
#47
Here is an interesting piece of info.
The motor pull I data logged took
8.7 seconds to go from 3800 rpm
to 6300 rpm during the pull on the dyno.
The nitrous pull only took 2.2 seconds
to cover that range.
I had never met the owner of this car prior
nor have I ever worked on it so I have no
bias. The car made HUGE power
no matter what you want to label
the nitrous kit. I am very skeptical
about dyno sheets but if this goes to another dyno(or track)
for confirm and betting is involved
then as long as it doesn't brake
my money is on this guy for sure.
I personally have seen all I need to see and hope he
takes it apart before it disassembles itself.
Gary
The motor pull I data logged took
8.7 seconds to go from 3800 rpm
to 6300 rpm during the pull on the dyno.
The nitrous pull only took 2.2 seconds
to cover that range.
I had never met the owner of this car prior
nor have I ever worked on it so I have no
bias. The car made HUGE power
no matter what you want to label
the nitrous kit. I am very skeptical
about dyno sheets but if this goes to another dyno(or track)
for confirm and betting is involved
then as long as it doesn't brake
my money is on this guy for sure.
I personally have seen all I need to see and hope he
takes it apart before it disassembles itself.
Gary
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I dont know this off the top of my head I put them in a month ago when I got it tuned for a 100 shot and then blew the cluth out when I was running the 150. I have left the 150 jetting in the car since then and I don't know off the top of my head what the jet sizes are for the 150 jetting. I will be at the shop in a few so I can crack open the line and have someone verify the jetting.
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I would like to see what the bearing look like and the rings. I dont want the motor to blow apart. I am supposed to take it apart yesterday and start working on the new motor. The shop owner said that I had till monday to get the stuff done. So if there is someone or somewhere I can take my car I will leave it together to do another dyno.
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#51
Last summer my car go dynoed at a sponsors shop, which had a Mustang dyno. My setup was a custom D1SC kit, with a 402, ati converter, the list goes on....It started at 880, and after the tune was done, it was around 984rwhp. Obviously a BS number. The car felt real fast. The shop owner even drove teh car himself, and said it felt real fast. They dynoed a few heads/cam cars at the same shop that same day and they were within the proper hp/tq. Dynos do act up.
I am not calling BS yet...but it doesn't add up. I say either the jetting is way off, or the dyno is way off.
I am not calling BS yet...but it doesn't add up. I say either the jetting is way off, or the dyno is way off.
#53
Originally Posted by haighter
Here is the dyno graph that I got from JBA.
The 715RWHP and 757 TQ was on a Stock pistons, rods, rod bolts and crank, with a 150 TNT F2 wet shot, with 1200 PSI on a 15lb.
The second one is on the nitrous tune, with 20 degress taken off from 3k RPM.
This was on my 2001 MBN WS6 Trans Am with 57k
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The 715RWHP and 757 TQ was on a Stock pistons, rods, rod bolts and crank, with a 150 TNT F2 wet shot, with 1200 PSI on a 15lb.
The second one is on the nitrous tune, with 20 degress taken off from 3k RPM.
This was on my 2001 MBN WS6 Trans Am with 57k
HAIGHTER
#56
Originally Posted by haighter
let me know how i can prove it to you. letting you know that I am selling the parts off of it and pulling the motor. I was supposed to start on it after the dyno day to see how the block looked. I can wait till monday to take it apart if I can frind a place that I can pull the motor out of my car.
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#57
Is the kit new? I had a similiar incident I sprayed a 100 and got 200 at the wheels. The reason mine did it was because the fuel solenoid was bad so it was a dry shot. So if the kit is used that could explain it.
#58
ok people.. LMAO.. this is making me laugh
no your car is NOT jetted for a 150 pop.. your jetted for 150 per nozzle.. i know this because i had a TNT ring with dual NX shark nozzles in a car that made 698 to the wheels stock bottom end and 420ish on motor..
now do you want to know why your car went that lean?? i bet you have a sinle walboro 255 or a racetronix unit or something similar.. with almost the twin set up to your car with a single in tank pump stock wiring the car would make 615 on a 200 on pump gas.. with an a/f in the mid 11's, up'd it to a 250 and i couldn;t keep the a/f down i was out of pump as you are.. you effectively just hit your car with a 300 shot of gas.. no biggie.. i've done it before with a standalone with some 112.. and i made 698 with a nice fat 10.8:1 a/f lean that out to your a/f and i would have made the same power..
so all in all hes not lying he made the power.. but it is not physically possible to make said power on a 150 shot.. now 150 PER nozzle and your numbers are spot on the money
good show
Mike
no your car is NOT jetted for a 150 pop.. your jetted for 150 per nozzle.. i know this because i had a TNT ring with dual NX shark nozzles in a car that made 698 to the wheels stock bottom end and 420ish on motor..
now do you want to know why your car went that lean?? i bet you have a sinle walboro 255 or a racetronix unit or something similar.. with almost the twin set up to your car with a single in tank pump stock wiring the car would make 615 on a 200 on pump gas.. with an a/f in the mid 11's, up'd it to a 250 and i couldn;t keep the a/f down i was out of pump as you are.. you effectively just hit your car with a 300 shot of gas.. no biggie.. i've done it before with a standalone with some 112.. and i made 698 with a nice fat 10.8:1 a/f lean that out to your a/f and i would have made the same power..
so all in all hes not lying he made the power.. but it is not physically possible to make said power on a 150 shot.. now 150 PER nozzle and your numbers are spot on the money
good show
Mike
#60
Originally Posted by Dial In GTO
I would not call this guy out for a race unless I could honestly make that kind of power.
Race on the street or at the track, not on the dyno....
Originally Posted by blacktransam
ok people.. LMAO.. this is making me laugh
no your car is NOT jetted for a 150 pop.. your jetted for 150 per nozzle.. i know this because i had a TNT ring with dual NX shark nozzles in a car that made 698 to the wheels stock bottom end and 420ish on motor..
now do you want to know why your car went that lean?? i bet you have a sinle walboro 255 or a racetronix unit or something similar.. with almost the twin set up to your car with a single in tank pump stock wiring the car would make 615 on a 200 on pump gas.. with an a/f in the mid 11's, up'd it to a 250 and i couldn;t keep the a/f down i was out of pump as you are.. you effectively just hit your car with a 300 shot of gas.. no biggie.. i've done it before with a standalone with some 112.. and i made 698 with a nice fat 10.8:1 a/f lean that out to your a/f and i would have made the same power..
so all in all hes not lying he made the power.. but it is not physically possible to make said power on a 150 shot.. now 150 PER nozzle and your numbers are spot on the money
good show
Mike
no your car is NOT jetted for a 150 pop.. your jetted for 150 per nozzle.. i know this because i had a TNT ring with dual NX shark nozzles in a car that made 698 to the wheels stock bottom end and 420ish on motor..
now do you want to know why your car went that lean?? i bet you have a sinle walboro 255 or a racetronix unit or something similar.. with almost the twin set up to your car with a single in tank pump stock wiring the car would make 615 on a 200 on pump gas.. with an a/f in the mid 11's, up'd it to a 250 and i couldn;t keep the a/f down i was out of pump as you are.. you effectively just hit your car with a 300 shot of gas.. no biggie.. i've done it before with a standalone with some 112.. and i made 698 with a nice fat 10.8:1 a/f lean that out to your a/f and i would have made the same power..
so all in all hes not lying he made the power.. but it is not physically possible to make said power on a 150 shot.. now 150 PER nozzle and your numbers are spot on the money
good show
Mike
There's no physical way that a "150" shot lays down 300rwhp. Bragging that it picked up that much and saying it was only jetted for 150 doesnt make your car better than anyone elses, it just makes you look shady.