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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Ok I have a few questions here I didnt know what forum to put it in so let me know if this is the wrong one. My motor is apart and it has forged connecting rods and pistons going in. I have a TSP 231/237 .598 .595 cam in right now and I am wanting to spray around a 200 shot. Is this a good cam choice? Also can I spray more than a 200 shot with those internals? Is there a better cam choice for nitrous spraying a 200 or larger. I am looking to make around 450 to the wheels on motor or closer to 500 and was wondering if I need a larger cam. I have patriot ls6 heads, a new professional products intake with the 96mm opening and TB, Kooks longtubes, SLP loudmouth, K&N filter lid and several small things like that. Any ideas on mods to help me get there that I dont have? I am not worried about the drivetrain that is in the works also to handle the power. Should I just get a cam specd to what I want thats what I am thinking. ALSO what sort of fuel pump-system do I need to handle this. I know its long sorry and thanks for your help I love this site!
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Whats is the rest of your motor combo that you hope to make 450-500 with? Anyway that is a good cam for spray.

You can hit the forged parts with a bigger than 200 shot.

A walbro 255 pump should suffice.
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Ya with forged pistons and rods your car will be completely fine for a 200 shot.. First you need to make sure and put it on the dyno to get the A/F to make sure that you are getting enough fuel while on the 200 shot. As for your cam i think your cam should do just fine for what you want, but if you really want you could get patrick G to spec you out one for your specific setup.

I would say as for your exhaust, go with some True duals, or a cut out. The duals will give you more power just your preference on loudness.

Also with forged pistons and rods, your car will definitely be able to handle up to prob a 300 shot it all just depends if you can get the fuel there for it .

Hope this helps.
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what else do I need to be able to get to 450 thats what I would be happy with. I also had a tune done on the car with just a cam no heads or intake for a 200 shot will I be ok with that for a while till I can get the car there. It also has main and head studs on the way to put in it I might go up to a 250 if that sounds ok but will stick with 200 for now also do I need to run better than 93 octane and should I try and raise my compression some its probably about 10.5 right now
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what else do I need to be able to get to 450 thats what I would be happy with. I also had a tune done on the car with just a cam no heads or intake for a 200 shot will I be ok with that for a while till I can get the car there. It also has main and head studs on the way to put in it I might go up to a 250 if that sounds ok but will stick with 200 for now also do I need to run better than 93 octane and should I try and raise my compression some its probably about 10.5 right now
I make 450/415 with the same cam, and a nice set of heads. The motor has a tight quench area and runs about 12:1 compression. I also have almost all boltons, with the exclusion of cutouts, a ported FAST, and an electric water pump.

As for running 93 on the spray, if you tune for it on spray it should be OK.
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brad what kind of track times do you see and what size shot do you spray if you dont mind me asking
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what else do I need to be able to get to 450 thats what I would be happy with. I also had a tune done on the car with just a cam no heads or intake for a 200 shot will I be ok with that for a while till I can get the car there. It also has main and head studs on the way to put in it I might go up to a 250 if that sounds ok but will stick with 200 for now also do I need to run better than 93 octane and should I try and raise my compression some its probably about 10.5 right now
Only thing im worried about is that the tune will be off and your will run lean or the timing is not right and it detonates, that will not be a pretty site, especially all that pretty forged stuff in there.
If your an M6 then 450 should be pretty easy to come by, if your a stalled auto i wouldn't get your hopes up for 450 as for an auto shows its numbers at the track.

The parts will hold up to a 250 shot no problem. Also IIRC i heard Brad8266 is spraying a 300 shot and running 9.8s i think . Anyways just make sure your timing and A/F is correct before you even think about spraying it i really dont want to see another post about another motor crapping out .

I hope your going with a 2 stage bc if your spraying off the line i can almost bet that traction will be limited. Only way to really tell is to go to the track and figure that one out, but most of the tracks nowadays, or at least here in Bama track prep sucks.
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brad what kind of track times do you see and what size shot do you spray if you dont mind me asking
No track times with the new setup yet, sorry. Still on a 150 till i stop being so lazy and order a new pack of jets so I can hit a 200 shot.
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Also IIRC i heard Brad8266 is spraying a 300 shot and running 9.8s i think .
No, lol. I will hit a 300 shot one day and hopefully click off a 9 sec pass. Not anytime soon though. The guy that had my block last did hit it with a 300 shot and ran a 9.7. I have yet to though. He also ran a th350 with transbrake.

Like i said above, i have been too lazy to mess with the car lately.
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so the walbro 255 is that like the GSS340 will that be enough with 450 on motor and a 200 shot?
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so the walbro 255 is that like the GSS340 will that be enough with 450 on motor and a 200 shot?
yeah its enough.
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