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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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Can I use dry nitrous with my Volant CAI? Since it's not really closed and isolated from underhood and outside...
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Sure, two options. This is the one I would opt for, mount nozzles in the neck 3 to 4 inches from the MAF with a 90* style. Other, mount straight shooters in the bottom of the air filters. Watch for a write up i am going to do on setting up a dry hit and tuning, including nozzle postion/tuning.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:06 PM
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Mmm not sure what do you mean buy "straight shooters" and "90* style", do you have some pics to explain it?

BTW Robert you were the person whom I will blame for persuading me to go down dry route I was thinking that wet is superior, but after reading your posts I changed my mind
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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90* nozzles shoot out the side at a 90* angle, and in the neck as suggested this directs the spray right onto the MAF wire like we like it. Straight shooters are just the 90*'s with the end cut off, and thus the spray shoots straight out the nozzle. My set-up, dual nozzles, i use one 90* and one straight, both in the neck. the straight shooter goes back into the air box and mixes with incoming air for a more diluted reading, or less cold on the maf wire and thus a way to lean it out a bit if needed. that's why dual nozzles up close work so well, many nozzle tuning options. Now if your trying for some runs right away, nozzles are fine, but if ya can wait on the new product, well...
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Do you happen to know what kind of nozzles is there in Dynotune 610 kit?
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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it should be a 90 degree
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you. I personally didn't want to drill into the neck of the Volant tube, but figured if you did it from the bottom and used the 90*, it wouldn't look so bad (especially if you had to adjust the nozzles a few times).

You could also feed what you need into the box from the opening where your mini filter goes, since you don't need to use that.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
I'm in the same boat as you. I personally didn't want to drill into the neck of the Volant tube, but figured if you did it from the bottom and used the 90*, it wouldn't look so bad (especially if you had to adjust the nozzles a few times).

You could also feed what you need into the box from the opening where your mini filter goes, since you don't need to use that.
Remember, if coming in from the bottom, you'll want to cut your 90* off so it's a straight shooter. Also, coming from bottom, and concerning air dynamics, you may be lean with no way to address it with out going in the tune. The neck works, hell I drilled out my $400 Vararam to be sure it worked correctly. you can allways just plug the hole with a blk body type push in plug. Or just use a annodized pipe plug.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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Maybe someone can show pictures, how does "straight shooter" and 90* look like?
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Another option would be using our distribution ring. We have found that it distributes a better discharge making sure the maff pics it up all the time. Then you just do the finnal tunning through the pcm.
There have been post by customers that have just simply switches from a nozzle to our ring and seen the differences. Do a search and check it out.
You could do one in each airfilter end.
We could specially build a dual discharge kit for you.
Here is the system.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=1215
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
Another option would be using our distribution ring. We have found that it distributes a better discharge making sure the maff pics it up all the time. Then you just do the finnal tunning through the pcm.
There have been post by customers that have just simply switches from a nozzle to our ring and seen the differences. Do a search and check it out.
You could do one in each airfilter end.
We could specially build a dual discharge kit for you.
Here is the system.
http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=1215
that is a good option. i think with dual rings fogging you would get a pretty good intial a/f, maybe good enough to by pass pcm tuning?

Vetal, if ya go this route, make sure you keep us updated.
Robert
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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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Robert, will do I've bought kit from member here 2 days ago, hope it is enroute now Unfortunately I don't have any tools to tune PCM for nitrous, but 1.sep there will be drag event that I want to participate Have to setup nitrous before that.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert56
Remember, if coming in from the bottom, you'll want to cut your 90* off so it's a straight shooter. Also, coming from bottom, and concerning air dynamics, you may be lean with no way to address it with out going in the tune.
Robert, I drilled my Volant from bottom too, why is there a problem with such setup?
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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Do what Robert is saying...drilling a hole in the neck. Run the braided line through rubber hose (like the same that comes off F-bodies EGR and A.I.R systems)

Mount solenoids near, hidden out of the way.

Looks clean and no one will ever tell just glancing.
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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I drilled in the bottom of plastic Y-pipe, is that what you call "neck"?
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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There is a product on the market that will address the a/f correctly for where ever you guys decide to put your nozzles, whether it's before or after the MAF. Some threads on it going right now.
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Old Apr 19, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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it's always something out there that would be good to buy
Tomorrow I have first official drag for my TransAm, wish me good luck
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Old May 14, 2008 | 02:44 AM
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I might have small problem with my setup... It seems to put out only 25-30whp, although I use 100HP jet. At first my line was really bent near nozzle, but now I have rerouted it, and still not more than 30whp. Pressure was 800-860psi.
What could be wrong?
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Old May 16, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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