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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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I've been out of the street racing scene for a looong time but I've still got that "I don't want people to see it" mentality. I have been kicking around the idea of buying a used kit and modifying it to suite my "needs" but I hate buying used ****. . .

Essentially what I want is a TNT F1 kit, but instead of having 1 fuel and 1 nitrous solenoid feeding 2 seperate nozzles, I want seperate noids for each nozzle, and I want to be able to tuck the nozzles away in the glove compartment of the car (so nobody can see it anywhere in the engine bay and I can just keep the gc locked), so obviously this would require much longer lines going from solenoids to nozzles. I also want this for the added benefit of a softer hit so I can leave on a 17" radial (maaaaaybe a drag radial) and then grab the 2nd unit as needed or have it set with a window switch to come on in 2nd gear. I was planning on having them activated seperately, either the first unit on a WOT switch and the 2nd hand activated, or the other way around as needed. Basically the bigger shot will be on a WOT switch and the smaller "uh-oh I need more hp" unit will be handheld so I can easily get in and out of it to fender race or peddle the car if I blow the tires off, without having to get in and out of the big unit as well or out of the throttle at all. I'd be hiding the nozzles under an SLP smooth bellow as well, every aspect of the kit should/will be hidden, but I'll do all the sneaky work.

I basically just need to know if I can peice together my own kit with new parts and buy it all at once lol.

Anyone?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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your not gonna be able to stick the nozzles in the glove compt. But some sponsors here do have alot of experiance with hidden kids. As a matter of fact Nitro Dave at the Nitrous Outlet has a "moneymaker kit" that is invisible. Give him a buzz...several here have used it with success...but you wont find any pics of it...cuz you cant see it!
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Inexpensive would be to use a dry kit with solid black hose & black hose ends (just so they blend in). Mount the nozzle after the maf on the underside of the air intake tract or go up through the filter in the lid with the nozzle. Then use or Interface controller for fueling control.

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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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your not gonna be able to stick the nozzles in the glove compt. But some sponsors here do have alot of experiance with hidden kids. As a matter of fact Nitro Dave at the Nitrous Outlet has a "moneymaker kit" that is invisible. Give him a buzz...several here have used it with success...but you wont find any pics of it...cuz you cant see it!
why not? I don't see why with some modification to the glove box they wouldn't fit...

I can't even find the moneymaker kit on their website.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 04:57 AM
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Inexpensive would be to use a dry kit with solid black hose & black hose ends (just so they blend in). Mount the nozzle after the maf on the underside of the air intake tract or go up through the filter in the lid with the nozzle. Then use or Interface controller for fueling control.

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lol dude I appreciate the response but I have no idea what that has to do with my question.

I'm not opposed to spending 1500+ dollars on a nitrous system to get EXACTLY what I want. I've always bought either 300 dollar used NX kits or once I bought a new TNT kit but I got it for 575 bucks.

I just don't want to end up with extra parts or have to buy all sorts of extra **** and wait a long time to put a kit together.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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why not? I don't see why with some modification to the glove box they wouldn't fit...

I can't even find the moneymaker kit on their website.

I was going to give you a smart *** answer like "well then go ahead and put em in your glove box then"

But I realize you are just looking for a reason why it cant. And there are many

NUMBER ONE first and foremost...you would then have fuel lines running INSIDE your car. That is not a good thing and IMO is unsafe.

2) if you put the noids so far away from the nozzle that will be somewhere in the vicinity of the TB you will have both nitrous anf fuel line of excessive lenght going from the glove box to the TB area. That could be 4-8 feet depending on how the lines are routed. Thats not gonna work very well.

Not only will you have a hell of a lean spike...but youll also be sputtering for a VERY long time after spraying as the fuel that filled that extra long fuel line dribles out of the line and nozzle and into the intake tract. It might take 5 minutes to clear that line with that large a volume of fuel in it.


Can it be done..yes

is it a good idea....no.

HSW's idea above is by far a simpler setup. Dry shot. No fuel lines. Plenty of places to hide a single noid and small dry nozzle and many ways to control it.
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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I got my customized kit from Matt at HSW. He got me exactly what I needed and all the hose and fittings in black..
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hsw will give you just about anything you want
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Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
I was going to give you a smart *** answer like "well then go ahead and put em in your glove box then"

But I realize you are just looking for a reason why it cant. And there are many

NUMBER ONE first and foremost...you would then have fuel lines running INSIDE your car. That is not a good thing and IMO is unsafe.

2) if you put the noids so far away from the nozzle that will be somewhere in the vicinity of the TB you will have both nitrous anf fuel line of excessive lenght going from the glove box to the TB area. That could be 4-8 feet depending on how the lines are routed. Thats not gonna work very well.

Not only will you have a hell of a lean spike...but youll also be sputtering for a VERY long time after spraying as the fuel that filled that extra long fuel line dribles out of the line and nozzle and into the intake tract. It might take 5 minutes to clear that line with that large a volume of fuel in it.


Can it be done..yes

is it a good idea....no.

HSW's idea above is by far a simpler setup. Dry shot. No fuel lines. Plenty of places to hide a single noid and small dry nozzle and many ways to control it.
Yeah I didn't even think about the fuel lines being inside the car. i'm not ENTIRELY worried about that, but it being AZ and my daily driver, I guess that's not a good idea. Good point.

I have heard of people hiding nitrous solenoids under dashboards and in door panels before, and I guess it's worked well before? Don't nkow though, I guess I'll just have to hide them closer to the nozzle.

I really don't want to use a dry nitrous system. I'm going to call Nitro dave's tomorrow about the money maker kit, that might just be the ticket
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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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The Money Maker isn't on our website but if you would like to call me at work i give you some info on it. The MoneyMaker System is $850.00

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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We can custom build a kit anyway you would like it. We have the largest varity of stock you will find. Because of this odds are we can design the system to your needs and still ship it out the same day. There are certain tricks my tech guys can advise you to help you install your system hidden and out of the way. It would be worth picking up the phone and calling one of our techs if you have time. We have full time techs that answer the phone and know what they can give you safe advise on how to run everything.

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
We can custom build a kit anyway you would like it. We have the largest varity of stock you will find. Because of this odds are we can design the system to your needs and still ship it out the same day. There are certain tricks my tech guys can advise you to help you install your system hidden and out of the way. It would be worth picking up the phone and calling one of our techs if you have time. We have full time techs that answer the phone and know what they can give you safe advise on how to run everything.

Dave
cool, i've been busy as **** all week but when I'm at work on monday I'll definitely have time to call. Do I just say I'm from LS1tech or should I ask for someone in specific?
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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I would for sure do something with black hoses and hidden solenoids. **** if your up to it you could always just buy a generic fuse box, hollow it out, and hide your solenoids in there then run black lines and a non-exposed nozzle and Bam, hidden. Never... Never run fuel lines inside your car. If I'm not mistaken its not NHRA or IHRA legal anyways, so that wouldnt fly when you roll up to tech inspections.
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