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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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Is this system worth it if your only spraying 100-150hp? Meaning, after a couple passes at 100 shot, would the pressure drop be enough to warrant this over a bottle heater?
We race all winter long, and it used to take 30 minutes to get my bottles up to 1100 psi where I would run them and this was with the best heater that dynotune sold. I was only spraying a 75 shot on my TBSS, but it made a nice difference, and I NEVER had to worry about bottle pressure anymore.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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Just received my NANO kit today. I haven't even had a chance to unpack it yet. For me I wanted to eliminate the heater and use all the nitrous in the bottle. It was worth the expense for me. When I try it out in the spring I'll report back on my results.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnies
We race all winter long, and it used to take 30 minutes to get my bottles up to 1100 psi where I would run them and this was with the best heater that dynotune sold. I was only spraying a 75 shot on my TBSS, but it made a nice difference, and I NEVER had to worry about bottle pressure anymore.
Hmmm, very interesting
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6NIGHTMARE
So would that kinda be the equivalent? Two bottles at full pressure?

But it still wouldnt cost me $500 to buy another bottle and heater. Although I cant see that being as efficient as the NANO system.
Here's my anti Push-System, system: dual 15lb'ers. Though once I get the new rule book who knows.

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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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We will be puuting a Nano system on one of our cars and possibly Tonys car. We have them sitting on the shelf. I like the design and product so far. I see no reason for oit not to be added benifit. Ill share with you what our testing results are.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
We will be puuting a Nano system on one of our cars and possibly Tonys car. We have them sitting on the shelf. I like the design and product so far. I see no reason for oit not to be added benifit. Ill share with you what our testing results are.
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Dave, would this system work fine on the valve on my bottle? I have the plate kit with a 10 lb bottle. It has the 2 smaller openings towards the bottom of the neck. Or would I need another valve?
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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can someone throw me a link to this? sounds interesting.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6NIGHTMARE
Dave, would this system work fine on the valve on my bottle? I have the plate kit with a 10 lb bottle. It has the 2 smaller openings towards the bottom of the neck. Or would I need another valve?

Yes it will work with our valve.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
they are legal for use at both NHRA and IHRA facilities....but you will have to check with individual class rules for competition.
You have a date it was approved Ray? Still illegal to run anywhere around here. I have ask.

My biggest quetion, and I have not looked much lately to be honest, is how do you handle refills? I am guessing the bottle must be completely emptied?

Being the cheap bastard I am I hate throwing away $5-10s so I can get a refill
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Originally Posted by WS6NIGHTMARE
Thanks for finding that thread.

The heater is no longer needed with this system, when activated it creates the desired bottle pressure without warming the bottle. At least I got my head wrapped around that much
I may be wrong, but here's how I see it. The way I understand it is that the nano increase bottle pressure by increasing the volume of the nitrous oxide bottle with nitrogen. If the bottle is full, but cold the pressure might not be high enough. Hence the use of a heater. If the bottle is full the push system cannot supply nitrogen to the nitrous bottle.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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You have a date it was approved Ray? Still illegal to run anywhere around here. I have ask.

My biggest quetion, and I have not looked much lately to be honest, is how do you handle refills? I am guessing the bottle must be completely emptied?

Being the cheap bastard I am I hate throwing away $5-10s so I can get a refill

I have spoken with Tech officials at both our local IHRA and Texas Motorplex which is a national event hosting NHRA track...both place gave me the OK.

The small bottles are filled with high pressure compressed air...they can be filled at any paintball, scuba, fire station, etc...you can also use nitrogen.
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
The small bottles are filled with high pressure compressed air...they can be filled at any paintball, scuba, fire station, etc...you can also use nitrogen.
I wanst talking about the push bottle Ray I was talking about the Juice hehehe!

BTW We need to line up at the shoot out. I should be a easy kill

AT least with duel bottles I might make it to the end of the track with more then 850Psi
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TwoFast4Lv
You have a date it was approved Ray? Still illegal to run anywhere around here. I have ask.

My biggest quetion, and I have not looked much lately to be honest, is how do you handle refills? I am guessing the bottle must be completely emptied?

Being the cheap bastard I am I hate throwing away $5-10s so I can get a refill
refills can get tricky. And it also depends on how savy the shop doing the refill is. If they have the nitrous pump you should be golden. You would likely have 1-2 lbs or so of nitrous in your nitrous bottle along with 950-1000 psi of nitrogen. As long as the nitrous pump can overcome the pressure you can still fill the bottle. Probalem is the pressure after filling will be a bit high. All I do at that point is turn the nitrous bottle upside down and crack the valve. You will then be venting nitrogen only. Only do this after the bottle has cooled down a bit...that way..as you vent the nitrogen..you can stop at the pressure that you will be operating at with the fresh nitrous bottle. This allows you to waste less compressed air or nitrogen when you hook up the NANO or nitrogen push. You can upside down vent BEFORE filling..but you wont know what your final pressure will be...if you fall below the pressure youll be operating at...youll have to waste a small amount of NANO air to bring it back up.

Typically the biggest drup in your NANO or nitrogen bottle is to get the pressure up after a fill. If its cold out..the typical nitrous bottle (with no air or nitrogen) canbe 700-800 psi. To raise it to 950-1050 takes alot out of your NANO or nitrogen bottle. So following the steps above will waste a TON less since you will be starting at the appropriate pressure. And thats very important..because your gonna be PISSED if your at the track....make a few tests passes..and then when your ready to let it all hang out...you look at your NANO and you have 900 PSi in the NANO and need 1050 to even START the run....and HAVE NO HEATER. Done for the day. Been there done that!!!!!


Another thing I used to do..if I felt like completely emptying the nitrogen...is use two nitrous bottles. If I had one that was down to 2 lbs, not enough to make a pass, I would take another empty or partially filled bottle, chill it, and hook that with a straight hose to the one with 2 lbs of juice left with nitrogen, Typically the one with 2 lbs in it that just came out of your car with the NANO will still be at the desired pressure...saye 1050. The one you are transfering too will have less pressure...open both valves and that 2 lbs will quicly flow into the other bottle. Having a few spare bottles around helps out a ton.

Also using the upside down venting helps reduce bottle pressure for servicing when you have nitrogen in it.

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Thanks. It has been a while since I read your thread.

I usually take six N2O bottles to the track and empty one beyound usful every other pass
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Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
Typically the biggest drup in your NANO or nitrogen bottle is to get the pressure up after a fill. If its cold out..the typical nitrous bottle (with no air or nitrogen) canbe 700-800 psi. To raise it to 950-1050 takes alot out of your NANO or nitrogen bottle. So following the steps above will waste a TON less since you will be starting at the appropriate pressure. And thats very important..because your gonna be PISSED if your at the track....make a few tests passes..and then when your ready to let it all hang out...you look at your NANO and you have 900 PSi in the NANO and need 1050 to even START the run....and HAVE NO HEATER. Done for the day. Been there done that!!!!!
I've pulled a bottle right out of the freezer and turned on the nano and it went up to the correct pressure even tho the bottle was cold, pulled out on the street and made it less than a few miles and sprayed it fine without any low pressure issues. For those wondering, it was in the freezer because we were gonna fill it, but decided not to do so.

Btw, we always bled off the nitrogen BEFORE filling the nitrous bottle.
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Originally Posted by skinnies
I've pulled a bottle right out of the freezer and turned on the nano and it went up to the correct pressure even tho the bottle was cold, pulled out on the street and made it less than a few miles and sprayed it fine without any low pressure issues. For those wondering, it was in the freezer because we were gonna fill it, but decided not to do so.

Btw, we always bled off the nitrogen BEFORE filling the nitrous bottle.
I dont think you got what I was saying. I never said NANO wouldnt work if the bottle was cold...but you waste quite a bit of compressed air/nitrogen doing it that way. And that amount you waste sucks whan your out of NANO pressure later. its just simple conservation. But in this case you need to conserve NANO pressure and nitrous volume. Now if you have two or three NANO bottles ready to go...your golden. But most wont be buying a ton of bottles.

I always had my mother tank of nitrogen with me..so Id just top off when needed. And I STILL would run out sometimes.

Of course I used to race quite a bit and go through many lbs of juice a week. Push systems work GREAT...but when you are reliant on them for running well...you also now risk running low on TWO required bottles that need filling, either of which being low will kill your runs. And your not likeley to find compressed air or nitrogen at the track or out on SAT night. So you learn tricks to conserve.

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Ah I got what your saying now, but with the nano, it has never ran out on me. That is the great thing about it, since they have done so much testing it will hold more pressure in the little bottle so it won't ever run out vs one big bottle. I ran all winter with it, cold bottles and never ran out.
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If any one want to pm more info on the nano i can make something for a fraction of the price that works exactly the same, we currently have the smallest regulator in the paint ball industry at half the price of all the others on the market
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