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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Going to get the car dynotuned and I'm an unsure how much timing I want the tuner to pull.

Car is a bolt on car with 100 dry shot and it will have 42# injectors by the time of the tune. I would prefer to keep the most amount of power on motor but then again I want to be safe on the 100 shot.

So how much timing. 1 or 2 degrees? None?

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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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pull 3-4


it's 2 degree's for every 50 hp increase
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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third Q
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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So, when I spray my 200 shot, 8 degrees?
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Less if you run high octane & TR6 or one step colder plugs. Add some 100 octane or NX nitrous octane booster for sure on shots that large. Higher octane or booster with colder plugs you can pull maybe 2 to 4 degree's timing depending on the tune. About 20 degree's on 93 octane & 22 to 24 degree's with 100 octane or NX octane booster & colder plugs. 24 with 2 steps colder plugs TR6 plugs 22 degree's. A/F 11.7 on nitrous also.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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I was able to run with no timing pulled up to 100 shot on a stock tune/stock motor. 175 shot (stock motor/tune) I needed to pull 3 degrees. See if they can log KR, that can help you in just how much.

I would estimate 1-2 for a 100 will work for what you want to do. Better to check though to be sure.

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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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im plannin on 100 shot can i just do it safely without pullin?
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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you can, i sprayed 150 with no timing pulled. talk about greedy. i ended up killing a couple of tr6 plugs in the way.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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On the small shots, most in the industry will say no timing pull needed. Though once you get upwards of 200 or more, then some pulled is wise. seems as we cover this about once a week. On my 200 and 250 shots I ran 18 degrees, on my 300 I run 14 degrees. Now, setting up your system with the most timng without knock retard is not the way to go. We melted down my ls6 with no KR, and was at 26*, but was a big hit. Remember, pulling timing is not just for safety, but also performance. N2o works it's best with less timing.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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You don't have to pull any timing for a 100 shot, but pulling 2 or 3 degrees won't hurt any. If you want to run max timing NA and pull some out & add some extra fuel take a look at our Interface controller:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/nitrous-oxide/822143-new-hsw-interface-air-fuel-timing-controller.html

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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You shouldn't have to pull any on a 100 shot. When I had the HSW dry kit on my car it ran a best of 11.34 @ 120 on a 100 shot with the stock tune & bolt-ons only. My scan guage showed not a hint of kr. I also always add a bottle of octane boost whenever I spray the car.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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I ran a 100 dry on my car with no timing pulled,i say u will be just fine leaving it the way it is,should run great!
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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For your application, 2-3 degrees of timing, no more would be necessary...
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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do you all ready have a tune for the bolt ons? did they add timing then?
like most have said on stock timing 100 should be ok w/o pulling timing, but to be safe pull 2* make a run, if its fine add the 2* and make another
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2 degrees should be enough
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bad6as
do you all ready have a tune for the bolt ons? did they add timing then?
like most have said on stock timing 100 should be ok w/o pulling timing, but to be safe pull 2* make a run, if its fine add the 2* and make another
I have a tune for the bolt ons but stock timing. I really really dont want to pull any but if necessary I will put a couple degrees. I need to get a timing tuner now
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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you still have the stock timing then you should not need to pull any with a 100 shot, is it rated at wheel or flywheel?
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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If you are getting it dynotuned your tuner should be able to help you decide how much timing to pull.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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im running 24* all the time on my 150 shot but every now again it will get some kr. when my tuner comes back in town im going to have him pull 2 more degrees for safety sake. that and the 200 pills are looking at me and calling me names.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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In your case, none.
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