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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Can you spray a dry kit through the air filter? Just want to make sure it will be safe and the computer will add the extra fuel.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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Yes you can,but if it is on a f-body just mount it above the filter on the side of the air lid!
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no you can not!
The cooling effect of the nitrous condenses and in some cases freezing the water. The filter will plug with condensed water. When I was spraying a large dry shot i would have to pull the filter. It would cause enough water to condense that the filter would be soaked and I was spraying AFTER the filter. Keep in mind I was using over 3# per pass.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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I plan on using only a 125 shot, so would that be ok? Plus where is the water coming from that is freezing? I don't have any water in my intake.

I am planing a hidden kit, so this is the reason I want to put it under the filter.

How would teh PCM add fuel. The MAF sensor only pics up how fast the air is moving through the sensor itself. The only way I see the PCM adding fuel is through the o2 sesors reading lean then the pcm adjusting short term fuel trims to correct. Is this right?

Also, how would I hook my nitrous kit up to brake line? Or is there any other bendable line out there that I should use? If so, who would you hook that up to the solenoid?
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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I plan on using only a 125 shot, so would that be ok? Plus where is the water coming from that is freezing? I don't have any water in my intake.

I am planing a hidden kit, so this is the reason I want to put it under the filter.

How would teh PCM add fuel. The MAF sensor only pics up how fast the air is moving through the sensor itself. The only way I see the PCM adding fuel is through the o2 sesors reading lean then the pcm adjusting short term fuel trims to correct. Is this right?

Also, how would I hook my nitrous kit up to brake line? Or is there any other bendable line out there that I should use? If so, who would you hook that up to the solenoid?
dont spray the filter... just drill a hole in the filter and spray towards the maf. Keep the nozzle as far from the maf as you can to be safe. Being safe is more important than being hidden. If you want hidden drill a hole in the bottom of the lid to mount the nozzle.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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I love it when somebody posts these completely wrong answers confusing someone thats trying to build something thats new to them.
The water is in the air. As the temp drops the relative humidity rises until it reaches the saturation point, it then condenses and collects as water (or ice).
There are a number of different sources of tubing you could use. I like Stainless steel but I suppose brake lines would work fine. Use a compression fitting to go from tube to male pipe too connect to your solenoid.
Good luck with your build
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WizeAss
dont spray the filter... just drill a hole in the filter and spray towards the maf. Keep the nozzle as far from the maf as you can to be safe. Being safe is more important than being hidden. If you want hidden drill a hole in the bottom of the lid to mount the nozzle.
I agree w/ you on the whole being safe is better than being hidden aspect but I think you've got the other hint backwards. The closer to the maf the more rich (safer) the further away areas will make you more lean (dangerous) right?
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Man i ran 150 dry with 2 nozzles,one in each side of the lid with no problems,and ran a filter,so yes you can or nos and other companys wouldnt sell it to mount in the lid like that! But didnt realize u was wanting to hide it under the filter,so no filter with that kind of setup,hope this helps thanks!

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Originally Posted by WizeAss
dont spray the filter... just drill a hole in the filter and spray towards the maf. Keep the nozzle as far from the maf as you can to be safe. Being safe is more important than being hidden. If you want hidden drill a hole in the bottom of the lid to mount the nozzle.
Did you learn your lesson about being safe I'm kidding Mike.

I would just poke a hole in the filter and mount the nozzle through it
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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Another quick question.

I want to put the nitrous jet at the solenoid, can I put it here and run a hard line about 50 inches and not have to worry about the spray amount? Will it spray the same with the jet at te solenoid as it would with the jet at the end of the line?
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Originally Posted by JBourne
Another quick question.

I want to put the nitrous jet at the solenoid, can I put it here and run a hard line about 50 inches and not have to worry about the spray amount? Will it spray the same with the jet at te solenoid as it would with the jet at the end of the line?
WOW thats kind of a confusing question.

The Jets are inside of the solenoids, and the solenoids need to be within 1 foot of where you spray nozzle is.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bjamick
The Jets are inside of the solenoids

Ya right!
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by koolrayz

Ya right!
Oh ok well my bad im thinking of a wet kit ..
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bjamick
WOW thats kind of a confusing question.

The Jets are inside of the solenoids, and the solenoids need to be within 1 foot of where you spray nozzle is.
No spray nozzle. Just a solenoid, the jet at the out port of the nitrous solenoid attached with a compression fitting modified to accept the jet, then about 50" of brake line after that. That is all, no nozzle, just dumps out of the end of the 50" inches of brake line.
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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good look man, just dont open your hood then, tell them you latch is broken
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Old Dec 29, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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You need to either learn a LOT more about nitrous, especially nitrous safety, or NOT use it. You are why people think nitrous destroys motors and kills people.


Yes. Solenoid MUST be within 1 foot of jet/nozzle. NO you cannot spray into a brake line and dump that line into the filter area.

MY suggestion is you have a competent shop experianced in nitrous install thisa for you... and they are GOING to strongly suggest some rather expensive safety measures be added to the system, especially if they hear you ask questions like this.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Boodyrider
You need to either learn a LOT more about nitrous, especially nitrous safety, or NOT use it. You are why people think nitrous destroys motors and kills people.


Yes. Solenoid MUST be within 1 foot of jet/nozzle. NO you cannot spray into a brake line and dump that line into the filter area.

MY suggestion is you have a competent shop experianced in nitrous install thisa for you... and they are GOING to strongly suggest some rather expensive safety measures be added to the system, especially if they hear you ask questions like this.
Thanks for your input, but to be honest, I have been using nitrous for many years, but I have not run it any different than what the kits recommend. This is my first time using a hidden kit and going "off track" of manufacturers recomendations.

I see your post is saying that I cannot do it and the nozzle has to be within a foot of the solenoid, but can you tell me why. If this is so, why does the sneaky pete or the "bottle in a bag" allow you to used many feet of the plastic flexible line between the solenoid and the nozzle?

All I need is an explaination as to why you cannot run about 51" of brake line after the jet? Is there going to be a difference in the amount of gas that comes out of the end of the brake line than there is coming out of the jet?
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You can do just that. Kits like you just mentioned work like that. It's probably not going to hit very hard, but that's what you're looking for. You just need to think of a way to hold the brake line in place. Tiny hose + 1050psi = blastoff if not secured.
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Originally Posted by koolrayz
I love it when somebody posts these completely wrong answers confusing someone thats trying to build something thats new to them.
The water is in the air. As the temp drops the relative humidity rises until it reaches the saturation point, it then condenses and collects as water (or ice).
There are a number of different sources of tubing you could use. I like Stainless steel but I suppose brake lines would work fine. Use a compression fitting to go from tube to male pipe too connect to your solenoid.
Good luck with your build
hey koolray do you happen to know your 1/8 times on the passes in your sig?
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6.41@109 on the 9.98
6.49@105 on the 10.11, that was with my 17" TT2 all around and drag radials
IIRC the 10.78 was 6.8@102
My best 1/8th was a 6.38
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