Nitrous Oxide Installation | Tuning | Products
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

weakest link?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-08-2008 | 03:02 PM
  #1  
dubrado's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: texas
Default weakest link?

rod? piston?

Has anyone just replaced their pistons/rings to spray more but left their stock rods in?

I don't know how strong the rods are but I've heard the pistons are the first to go.
Old 01-08-2008 | 03:03 PM
  #2  
Rick@HSW's Avatar
FormerVendor
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
From: Eastern PA
Default

actually the rod bolts are what concerns me and most other people. in my opinion they seem to be the weak link in the short block.
Old 01-08-2008 | 03:08 PM
  #3  
teddyca's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (37)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 556
Likes: 1
Default

your wallet
Old 01-08-2008 | 03:22 PM
  #4  
dubrado's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 658
Likes: 0
From: texas
Default

Originally Posted by Rick@HSW
actually the rod bolts are what concerns me and most other people. in my opinion they seem to be the weak link in the short block.
So replacing pistons and rod bolts would be sufficient enough to run a 200-250 shot?

I'm trying to get an idea of what is necessary and what mods are just an extra security to help you sleep at night better.
Old 01-08-2008 | 06:48 PM
  #5  
b00sted's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Rod bolts, and then probably the pistons rings and ring lands. Outlaw Motorsports went 9.50s on spray with ARP rod-bolts and a good piston, stock rods and stock crank. I just found that out and was quite surprised...
Old 01-08-2008 | 06:49 PM
  #6  
b00sted's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by dubrado
So replacing pistons and rod bolts would be sufficient enough to run a 200-250 shot?
Yes, see above post. He was spraying 250, and then I think he sprayed 300 when it went on the bumper off the foot-brake.
Old 01-08-2008 | 07:14 PM
  #7  
Shawn @ VA Speed's Avatar
FormerVendor
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,991
Likes: 2
From: Virginia Beach,Virginia
Default

put forged pistons and rods in a then you dont have to worry about it.
Old 01-08-2008 | 07:38 PM
  #8  
Randy WS6's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (69)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,755
Likes: 2
From: Baxter,KY.
Default

I would go and spend a few hundred dollars and get the rotation assemble balanced for reliability, the motors revs so much faster on nitrous and puts very heavy load on every thing rotating in the engine
Old 01-08-2008 | 08:25 PM
  #9  
Rick@HSW's Avatar
FormerVendor
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
From: Eastern PA
Default

Originally Posted by b00sted
Rod bolts, and then probably the pistons rings and ring lands. Outlaw Motorsports went 9.50s on spray with ARP rod-bolts and a good piston, stock rods and stock crank. I just found that out and was quite surprised...
i agree.
Old 01-08-2008 | 08:34 PM
  #10  
Beaflag VonRathburg's Avatar
OWN3D BY MY PROF!

iTrader: (176)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 9,146
Likes: 3
From: Jax Beach, Florida
Default

Originally Posted by b00sted
Yes, see above post. He was spraying 250, and then I think he sprayed 300 when it went on the bumper off the foot-brake.
After a while though on the 300 the stock rods started to get bent out of shape. It definetly was a bad *** car. I always use it as a reference in instances like this. You could also get some cheap forged rods off of ebay for about $300. That's about $200 more than you'll spend on rod bolts. It will take a lot more, have a higher resale value, and you'll probably kick yourself down the line if you don't.
Old 01-08-2008 | 08:42 PM
  #11  
WS6 Rampage's Avatar
TECH Addict

iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,498
Likes: 3
From: The dirty taint of the country. ...Los Angeles
Default

Originally Posted by teddyca
your wallet
+1....
Old 01-08-2008 | 11:21 PM
  #12  
b00sted's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,109
Likes: 0
From: Chicago
Default

Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
After a while though on the 300 the stock rods started to get bent out of shape. It definetly was a bad *** car. I always use it as a reference in instances like this. You could also get some cheap forged rods off of ebay for about $300. That's about $200 more than you'll spend on rod bolts. It will take a lot more, have a higher resale value, and you'll probably kick yourself down the line if you don't.
If I were going through the expense of buying pistons, arp hardware, rings/bearings, and having it all assembled...I'd just get the extra 475$ and put an h-beam in it and be done with it.

But I was just saying that the stock rods will hold up to quite a bit. Would I personally run them with a big shot? Nah.
Old 01-10-2008 | 11:22 PM
  #13  
J_Z28_T's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 267
Likes: 0
From: Mesquite
Default

Originally Posted by Rick@HSW
i agree.
what are ring lands??
Old 01-11-2008 | 12:03 AM
  #14  
BriancWS6's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 3,910
Likes: 1
From: The Garage
Default

Originally Posted by J_Z28_T
what are ring lands??
I answered this question in your thread you started
Old 01-11-2008 | 01:23 AM
  #15  
J_Z28_T's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 267
Likes: 0
From: Mesquite
Default

Originally Posted by BriancWS6
I answered this question in your thread you started
thanks bro




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:07 AM.