help with nitrous and th400
BTW at PGD's you were to buisy letting your girlfriend make Test and tune hits on a 150 shot to log any runs on my car...... same with atv's . good luck with all thise supper fast nitrous cars you have built
As far as your conserned you told me to not put a vic jr not put a top mount TB, not put a glide, not put a dana 60...I think te quote was youl be lucky if it goes 9's LOLLOLOLOLO
BTW hows not fasts old car doing.LOLOLOL
You also apparently cant read either, along with picking a cam. Read above I said for that size shot. I mess with nitrous quite a bit and the only overlap is good is to controll cylinder pressure hence a 350 and up shot (which generates alot in case you didnt know). I dont know if anyone told you but ls1 dont have the best cylinder head clamping.
Last edited by hvyhttter; Mar 26, 2008 at 08:42 PM.
Bull **** you never came up with anything for MY CAR. I told you abotu where i wanted it and you picked the lobes. YOu also came up with a quench that was way to tight and tuned it way to rich and poped the ring lands twice.
BTW at PGD's you were to buisy letting your girlfriend make Test and tune hits on a 150 shot to log any runs on my car...... same with atv's . good luck with all thise supper fast nitrous cars you have built
BTW at PGD's you were to buisy letting your girlfriend make Test and tune hits on a 150 shot to log any runs on my car...... same with atv's . good luck with all thise supper fast nitrous cars you have built
Your car had already been done the track on a rope and the tuneup was close (but it could have done with less timing) I knew this. Yours need to slowly bring the nitrous in earlier since every car was blowing tires away and watch the plugs F the knock sensor on HPTuners! Shed never been down track with a dry hit thats only been on a couple times on the dyno, and never left on gas with a car that went 1.32s on the motor. Kinda wanted to make sure it didnt flip over or pop it not checking its right first couple passes with a dry shot. Sorry!
I guess you melt "plugs" being rich Steve. You can lift ring lands way rich, but your not melting a plug with a strap like an AR92 because something is a little rich. Sure wasnt more than a little rich if it went 150 mph at 3600 lbs on pump gas. The quench was tight for the pump gas setup. Never was meant for you to throw another 200 hit on top of it later. The only thing you TOLD me to do, was leave the timing in it we had on the dyno because "Im always to conservative" It rattled at memphis - I said its hurtin - and it ate some plugs. I also said park it now before it did something catastrophic, or send it out the hard way. You said no way and if it was youd rather send it all the way out at least trying, I agreed with you its as good a place as any to hurt it. Pulled some timing out of it and it made it far enough and went quicker.
I never said dont get a 60. I said Id run 3.73s not 3.55s (dont get it twisted), so you dont have to leave off a hella hit to make it 60 ft. Cylinder pressure hurts stuff. At LSx race your car made 1 or 2 mid-low9 second passes and 3 days of blowing the tires away leaving full tilt and jetting it up along the way and then it got hurt. I made some suggestions wary of where it was going and YOU told ME "You had it under control" Im not going to argue with you about it. You told me point of Waynes DP so you have control over it, made it clear that what you wanted. The DP stage we saw 12.5:1 A/F and his motor end up hurt too. I dont think your putting anything on my shoulders because that aint rich nor because of a headgasket choice for a PG motor on a motor with 550 pills - it only need 250 to go 8s. You tell yourself so much you start to believe it. Ive always been willing to help, helped you get yours straight, then helped ATV get his straight, but when I help my girlfriend get hers straight its a big ******* deal. I helped all of you racing, you all burned up hundred hours on my dyno, no one else. My car sits apart, no one elses. None of you ever had one thing to say to me the timeframe your griping about now except for a smart *** comment maybe every now and then bout me being allowed out, but now Im such a mean MFer now that did sooo much to ya. Dont get it twisted, but whatever you want to say - grown ups move on let it go. Or at least have backbone to talk to the person before its such an issue instead of cluttering up someones post with nonrelated BS.
Wayne bringing up some completely unrelated **** is poor attempt to make someone look bad. Your just making yourself look bad reaching for stuff. When you have employees and do business for any length of time, **** can happen. Some people take care of it like myself, others pawn things off on customers etc etc. I can tell you this, no one has ever gotten a car back from me and was disappointed in how it ran. Hell when one of my employees dropped ball checking something, cust came in and said he knows there no warranty on performance parts - motor was out and all taken care of on my dime, put back together and made 35 MORE hp. Next time you think your airing out dirty laundry, check to see if its clean clothes
This is no better nonsense than yall in the other post. Reply with pertinant content and stop being eFag stalkers. You all have an obvious need to validate yourselves with the herding mentality. Ive never really needed to lean on 3 or 4 people to say what on my mind, but I guess theres comfort in numbers. Im done with all the BS from here on out, because it just doesnt mean nothing.Hvyhitter, contrary to what these guys might want to say now, I know how they work. A year or two ago I was explaining to them why Id do stuff to spread cyl pressures out, now the same guy who said "why the hell are we going to run a cam on 115-116 LSA" told me to do just that! I know what a 350 hit does, Shiz didnt have head issues on pump gas, and never did when he had 500+ hit on it either.
To the original poster, Ive had no problem with 346 or 400+ inch TH400 cars to make 150 rwhp abouts on 150 shot. Cant say what exactly is up with yours, but I can tell you whats has been done and proven.
You told me about where you wanted "it", what exactly did you say? Did you give me some ballpark cam spec that I found the nearest XER lobe to? Come on, we know cams dont work off of "I gave you a general idea" i used the same int lobe on the same centerline as I have with another car so we woudl have a a-b comparison in rpm ranges of manifolds, and exh lobe where thought best to keep torque where needed. Ive never said Vic Jr would be bad for you, Ive always try to stay away from LSx style intakes on nitrous cars from day one. I did tell Brent for the setup he had NA Id stick with the FAST being his car was near 3800 lbs, dont get things twisted.
Your car had already been done the track on a rope and the tuneup was close (but it could have done with less timing) I knew this. Yours need to slowly bring the nitrous in earlier since every car was blowing tires away and watch the plugs F the knock sensor on HPTuners! Shed never been down track with a dry hit thats only been on a couple times on the dyno, and never left on gas with a car that went 1.32s on the motor. Kinda wanted to make sure it didnt flip over or pop it not checking its right first couple passes with a dry shot. Sorry!
I guess you melt "plugs" being rich Steve. You can lift ring lands way rich, but your not melting a plug with a strap like an AR92 because something is a little rich. Sure wasnt more than a little rich if it went 150 mph at 3600 lbs on pump gas. The quench was tight for the pump gas setup. Never was meant for you to throw another 200 hit on top of it later. The only thing you TOLD me to do, was leave the timing in it we had on the dyno because "Im always to conservative" It rattled at memphis - I said its hurtin - and it ate some plugs. I also said park it now before it did something catastrophic, or send it out the hard way. You said no way and if it was youd rather send it all the way out at least trying, I agreed with you its as good a place as any to hurt it. Pulled some timing out of it and it made it far enough and went quicker.
I never said dont get a 60. I said Id run 3.73s not 3.55s (dont get it twisted), so you dont have to leave off a hella hit to make it 60 ft. Cylinder pressure hurts stuff. At LSx race your car made 1 or 2 mid-low9 second passes and 3 days of blowing the tires away leaving full tilt and jetting it up along the way and then it got hurt. I made some suggestions wary of where it was going and YOU told ME "You had it under control" Im not going to argue with you about it. You told me point of Waynes DP so you have control over it, made it clear that what you wanted. The DP stage we saw 12.5:1 A/F and his motor end up hurt too. I dont think your putting anything on my shoulders because that aint rich nor because of a headgasket choice for a PG motor on a motor with 550 pills - it only need 250 to go 8s. You tell yourself so much you start to believe it. Ive always been willing to help, helped you get yours straight, then helped ATV get his straight, but when I help my girlfriend get hers straight its a big ******* deal. I helped all of you racing, you all burned up hundred hours on my dyno, no one else. My car sits apart, no one elses. None of you ever had one thing to say to me the timeframe your griping about now except for a smart *** comment maybe every now and then bout me being allowed out, but now Im such a mean MFer now that did sooo much to ya. Dont get it twisted, but whatever you want to say - grown ups move on let it go. Or at least have backbone to talk to the person before its such an issue instead of cluttering up someones post with nonrelated BS.
Wayne bringing up some completely unrelated **** is poor attempt to make someone look bad. Your just making yourself look bad reaching for stuff. When you have employees and do business for any length of time, **** can happen. Some people take care of it like myself, others pawn things off on customers etc etc. I can tell you this, no one has ever gotten a car back from me and was disappointed in how it ran. Hell when one of my employees dropped ball checking something, cust came in and said he knows there no warranty on performance parts - motor was out and all taken care of on my dime, put back together and made 35 MORE hp. Next time you think your airing out dirty laundry, check to see if its clean clothes This is no better nonsense than yall in the other post. Reply with pertinant content and stop being eFag stalkers. You all have an obvious need to validate yourselves with the herding mentality. Ive never really needed to lean on 3 or 4 people to say what on my mind, but I guess theres comfort in numbers. Im done with all the BS from here on out, because it just doesnt mean nothing.
Hvyhitter, contrary to what these guys might want to say now, I know how they work. A year or two ago I was explaining to them why Id do stuff to spread cyl pressures out, now the same guy who said "why the hell are we going to run a cam on 115-116 LSA" told me to do just that! I know what a 350 hit does, Shiz didnt have head issues on pump gas, and never did when he had 500+ hit on it either.
To the original poster, Ive had no problem with 346 or 400+ inch TH400 cars to make 150 rwhp abouts on 150 shot. Cant say what exactly is up with yours, but I can tell you whats has been done and proven.
Your car had already been done the track on a rope and the tuneup was close (but it could have done with less timing) I knew this. Yours need to slowly bring the nitrous in earlier since every car was blowing tires away and watch the plugs F the knock sensor on HPTuners! Shed never been down track with a dry hit thats only been on a couple times on the dyno, and never left on gas with a car that went 1.32s on the motor. Kinda wanted to make sure it didnt flip over or pop it not checking its right first couple passes with a dry shot. Sorry!
I guess you melt "plugs" being rich Steve. You can lift ring lands way rich, but your not melting a plug with a strap like an AR92 because something is a little rich. Sure wasnt more than a little rich if it went 150 mph at 3600 lbs on pump gas. The quench was tight for the pump gas setup. Never was meant for you to throw another 200 hit on top of it later. The only thing you TOLD me to do, was leave the timing in it we had on the dyno because "Im always to conservative" It rattled at memphis - I said its hurtin - and it ate some plugs. I also said park it now before it did something catastrophic, or send it out the hard way. You said no way and if it was youd rather send it all the way out at least trying, I agreed with you its as good a place as any to hurt it. Pulled some timing out of it and it made it far enough and went quicker.
I never said dont get a 60. I said Id run 3.73s not 3.55s (dont get it twisted), so you dont have to leave off a hella hit to make it 60 ft. Cylinder pressure hurts stuff. At LSx race your car made 1 or 2 mid-low9 second passes and 3 days of blowing the tires away leaving full tilt and jetting it up along the way and then it got hurt. I made some suggestions wary of where it was going and YOU told ME "You had it under control" Im not going to argue with you about it. You told me point of Waynes DP so you have control over it, made it clear that what you wanted. The DP stage we saw 12.5:1 A/F and his motor end up hurt too. I dont think your putting anything on my shoulders because that aint rich nor because of a headgasket choice for a PG motor on a motor with 550 pills - it only need 250 to go 8s. You tell yourself so much you start to believe it. Ive always been willing to help, helped you get yours straight, then helped ATV get his straight, but when I help my girlfriend get hers straight its a big ******* deal. I helped all of you racing, you all burned up hundred hours on my dyno, no one else. My car sits apart, no one elses. None of you ever had one thing to say to me the timeframe your griping about now except for a smart *** comment maybe every now and then bout me being allowed out, but now Im such a mean MFer now that did sooo much to ya. Dont get it twisted, but whatever you want to say - grown ups move on let it go. Or at least have backbone to talk to the person before its such an issue instead of cluttering up someones post with nonrelated BS.
Wayne bringing up some completely unrelated **** is poor attempt to make someone look bad. Your just making yourself look bad reaching for stuff. When you have employees and do business for any length of time, **** can happen. Some people take care of it like myself, others pawn things off on customers etc etc. I can tell you this, no one has ever gotten a car back from me and was disappointed in how it ran. Hell when one of my employees dropped ball checking something, cust came in and said he knows there no warranty on performance parts - motor was out and all taken care of on my dime, put back together and made 35 MORE hp. Next time you think your airing out dirty laundry, check to see if its clean clothes
This is no better nonsense than yall in the other post. Reply with pertinant content and stop being eFag stalkers. You all have an obvious need to validate yourselves with the herding mentality. Ive never really needed to lean on 3 or 4 people to say what on my mind, but I guess theres comfort in numbers. Im done with all the BS from here on out, because it just doesnt mean nothing.Hvyhitter, contrary to what these guys might want to say now, I know how they work. A year or two ago I was explaining to them why Id do stuff to spread cyl pressures out, now the same guy who said "why the hell are we going to run a cam on 115-116 LSA" told me to do just that! I know what a 350 hit does, Shiz didnt have head issues on pump gas, and never did when he had 500+ hit on it either.
To the original poster, Ive had no problem with 346 or 400+ inch TH400 cars to make 150 rwhp abouts on 150 shot. Cant say what exactly is up with yours, but I can tell you whats has been done and proven.
Yes you can melt plugs pig rich and yyes you pop ring lands pig ritch clown. it also didn't help you insisted on the .045 quench when it should have been a 61. it sped up the burn causing way to much heat and melted ****.
BS on the car had been down the track. it went down the year before and made 1 149 mph pass. we had not got it down the trakc at all that year until the first pass on race day in memphis. even the T&T passes it didn't run right.
As the rest .send me the cliff notes. you get **** twisted in your ADD head and forget ****. THe reason we told you to stay out of it after while is you never wanted to help until it did something good. you kicked us out and told wayne ad i to sell the cars everytime they were not perfect. you never helped figure anything out just wantyed some of the glory! You didn't help me with puimp gas or going 8's other than some dyno time and were even on that since i helped build your shop! Stop bringing my car up in your posts. build your own car.... hell ash would never of went faster than 9.89 if she wouldn't of finally listened to me on the vic jr.
You want ot keep saying you did this and that. Jeff if it wasn't for my ,waynes, brents,chads and matts wallet what would you have ever learned? hell ashley would have never brought her car to you if it wasn't for me and wayne! you don't have to admit it everyone around GB already knows! Even ashley knows.
IT was never about helping her. I helped her a ton ,so did Native. It was about we would help her and you and when it came time for us to go racing our "tuner" never had time...... Good luck with going to races with you ash and grandma..... Well see you there. well be the ones going rounds!
As for the duirty laundry mi8ght want to call the guy who baught not fast car and see if hes happy with the oil drinker. LOL or ERIK whos car you have had for 16 months and his money for 12. Your the one digging a hole here jeff! one day youl see the light.
Its doing good I assume. He just called me, hes driving it to PA and back everyday since his stock truck has a broke transmission AGAIN. He said he dynoed it on a dynojet not to long ago, its made right at 400 and 390 lbs torque or something - vs on our Mustang where it made 340 lbs torque and 380something hp. Thought that was kind of low until he told me a/f was 11:1 something. Probably because it doesnt have enough load on it, as it was 12.7:1 on our dyno. Might have made some more power taking more than a full point out of it, but we dont tune cars for dynojet numbers. He did say it puffed some smoke when he let out of it at near 160 mph, he was going off stock tach at 6800 but according to our roll speed from prior that was actually about 7500. Im sure with a stock 98 PCV system it flutterd the rings pretty good with 7500 rpm of crankcase pressure chopping throttle. We talked about some fixes for that. After he dynoed it went back to the track and ran 122+ mph and was driving it today when he called me. Do you know something I dont know because he just told me hes more than happy? Or are you just reaching again?
Dont get it twisted
Your car had already been done the track on a rope and the tuneup was close (but it could have done with less timing) I knew this. Yours need to slowly bring the nitrous in earlier since every car was blowing tires away and watch the plugs F the knock sensor on HPTuners! Shed never been down track with a dry hit thats only been on a couple times on the dyno, and never left on gas with a car that went 1.32s on the motor. Kinda wanted to make sure it didnt flip over or pop it not checking its right first couple passes with a dry shot. Sorry!
I guess you melt "plugs" being rich Steve. You can lift ring lands way rich, but your not melting a plug with a strap like an AR92 because something is a little rich.
The only thing you TOLD me to do, was leave the timing in it we had on the dyno because "Im always to conservative" It rattled at memphis - I said its hurtin - and it ate some plugs. I also said park it now before it did something catastrophic, or send it out the hard way. You said no way and if it was youd rather send it all the way out at least trying, I agreed with you its as good a place as any to hurt it. Pulled some timing out of it and it made it far enough and went quicker.
The only thing you TOLD me to do, was leave the timing in it we had on the dyno because "Im always to conservative" It rattled at memphis - I said its hurtin - and it ate some plugs. I also said park it now before it did something catastrophic, or send it out the hard way. You said no way and if it was youd rather send it all the way out at least trying, I agreed with you its as good a place as any to hurt it. Pulled some timing out of it and it made it far enough and went quicker.
It was more than a little rich if it lifts the ring lands.
After it lifts the ring land oil gets in the cyl. and **** the flame up and it melts stuff. (plug tips first). So you might think it was lean or it had to much timing but if it lifted the ring land it was TO rich and thats what hurt it.
Dont get it twisted
At LSx race your car made 1 or 2 mid-low9 second passes and 3 days of blowing the tires away leaving full tilt and jetting it up along the way and then it got hurt. I made some suggestions wary of where it was going and YOU told ME "You had it under control" Im not going to argue with you about it.
You told me point of Waynes DP so you have control over it, made it clear that what you wanted. The DP stage we saw 12.5:1 A/F and his motor end up hurt too. I dont think your putting anything on my shoulders because that aint rich .
You told me point of Waynes DP so you have control over it, made it clear that what you wanted. The DP stage we saw 12.5:1 A/F and his motor end up hurt too. I dont think your putting anything on my shoulders because that aint rich .
Here is some more info for you.
You can not tune a 3-400 shot with 1 wide band.
if it was at 12.5:1 truly then it would have melted on the first pass.
1st pass it went 9.8 @ 135 ... we took 6lbs. of fuel pressure out (because our tuner wasnt at the track, he was up his girls *** until she wanted to come the 2nd day.)
2nd pass with 6psi out it went 9.3@145 (dont think it was lean do you?)
3rd pass took out another 2psi fuel ... 9.2@147 (must be really lean now
)4th pass took out another 1 psi fuel .... 9.1@148.... thanks for your help
Ive always been willing to help, helped you get yours straight, then helped ATV get his straight, but when I help my girlfriend get hers straight its a big ******* deal. I helped all of you racing, you all burned up hundred hours on my dyno, no one else.
None of you ever had one thing to say to me the timeframe your griping about now except for a smart *** comment maybe every now and then bout me being allowed out, but now Im such a mean MFer now that did sooo much to ya. Dont get it twisted, but whatever you want to say - grown ups move on let it go. Or at least have backbone to talk to the person before its such an issue
None of you ever had one thing to say to me the timeframe your griping about now except for a smart *** comment maybe every now and then bout me being allowed out, but now Im such a mean MFer now that did sooo much to ya. Dont get it twisted, but whatever you want to say - grown ups move on let it go. Or at least have backbone to talk to the person before its such an issue
Hurry up and get this junk out of here, I need to get to Ashleys is all we heard.
We helped you build the shop and install said dyno so a few hours on it I think would be fair.
I never said you were mean (that would be gay) I said your a ***** whipped ***.
We tried telling you but you think it was a joke or a "smartass comment".
You dont answer the phone, you dont return calls and after you dropped his car off the lift you didnt even have the decency to call him and tell him, you send him an Email? WTF ?
Now the same customer wants us to finish the car because you have had his $10,000 for over a year with NO results.
Hell when one of my employees dropped ball checking something, cust came in and said he knows there no warranty on performance parts - motor was out and all taken care of on my dime, put back together and made 35 MORE hp.
Reply with pertinant content and stop being eFag stalkers. You all have an obvious need to validate yourselves with the herding mentality. Ive never really needed to lean on 3 or 4 people to say what on my mind, but I guess theres comfort in numbers. Im done with all the BS from here on out, because it just doesnt mean nothing.
Reply with pertinant content and stop being eFag stalkers. You all have an obvious need to validate yourselves with the herding mentality. Ive never really needed to lean on 3 or 4 people to say what on my mind, but I guess theres comfort in numbers. Im done with all the BS from here on out, because it just doesnt mean nothing.
I got nothing better to do at work then to **** on you all day buddy.
Hvyhitter, contrary to what these guys might want to say now, I know how they work. A year or two ago I was explaining to them why Id do stuff to spread cyl pressures out, now the same guy who said "why the hell are we going to run a cam on 115-116 LSA" told me to do just that! I know what a 350 hit does, Shiz didnt have head issues on pump gas, and never did when he had 500+ hit on it either.
So next time you get on delivered be sure to tip him well, he may be the next "super tuner"
Its doing good I assume. He just called me, hes driving it to PA and back everyday since his stock truck has a broke transmission AGAIN. He said he dynoed it on a dynojet not to long ago, its made right at 400 and 390 lbs torque or something - vs on our Mustang where it made 340 lbs torque and 380something hp. Thought that was kind of low until he told me a/f was 11:1 something. Probably because it doesnt have enough load on it, as it was 12.7:1 on our dyno. Might have made some more power taking more than a full point out of it, but we dont tune cars for dynojet numbers. He did say it puffed some smoke when he let out of it at near 160 mph, he was going off stock tach at 6800 but according to our roll speed from prior that was actually about 7500. Im sure with a stock 98 PCV system it flutterd the rings pretty good with 7500 rpm of crankcase pressure chopping throttle. We talked about some fixes for that. After he dynoed it went back to the track and ran 122+ mph and was driving it today when he called me. Do you know something I dont know because he just told me hes more than happy? Or are you just reaching again?
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hey i figured id let you guys know that olde silver heap of matt's that was at PSI for 69 years getting a motor and whatever. burns oil by the quart every week now. 370 whatever it is with a TH400 12bolt blah blah blah all that other **** and its like a tenth faster then when matt had it...
before I read the ******* dissertation from jeff I would just like to say that 3 years ago this snot nosed punk was delivering pizza's and living at home with his gran-mom and attempting to tune cars, 2 years ago he was blowing my car up at the track with his pig rich tunes and his 1 wideband self bragging how good he was at tuning and still living at home with his gran-mom, last year he barely touched anyones car but this chick named ashley that he fell in love with, he was bragging about how he built sick street cars and some other bullshit while cams fell out of customers cars and customers cars fell of his lift and still living at home with gran-mom, this year who knows? maybe he will race his budget heads/cam trickflow 450 horsepower 10 bolt stock 6 speed hawtness at the track and maybe put up a low 12 second pass but no matter what happend I bet he still lives at home with gran-ma......LMFAO!
ps.. wayne just took a **** all over jeff.......
jeff lets get some **** straight, every hookup you have is because of us, the type of tranny/converter/fuel system/intakes/welder/headflower/camshaft doctor and the list goes on is because of us! 3 years from now you will be trying to run **** we did last year still bragging about how you built sick **** and your the greatest tuners with the one same wideband that has been kicked around the floor of your shop for the past 3 years, copycat clown! oh yeah I cant wait to see you at the track this year
ps.. wayne just took a **** all over jeff.......
jeff lets get some **** straight, every hookup you have is because of us, the type of tranny/converter/fuel system/intakes/welder/headflower/camshaft doctor and the list goes on is because of us! 3 years from now you will be trying to run **** we did last year still bragging about how you built sick **** and your the greatest tuners with the one same wideband that has been kicked around the floor of your shop for the past 3 years, copycat clown! oh yeah I cant wait to see you at the track this year
Last edited by choppin-suey; Mar 27, 2008 at 04:13 PM.
[QUOTE=ATVracr;9019663]You told him not to do the Vic Jr., the top mount TB and the glide.
Dont get it twisted
English please!
Let me explain how it works. Your SO smart you should already know this.
It was more than a little rich if it lifts the ring lands.
After it lifts the ring land oil gets in the cyl. and **** the flame up and it melts stuff. (plug tips first). So you might think it was lean or it had to much timing but if it lifted the ring land it was TO rich and thats what hurt it.
Dont get it twisted
We could not get you to help us at the LSX race so him Saying"we got it under control" is his way of saying *** you we got it.
Here is some more info for you.
You can not tune a 3-400 shot with 1 wide band.
if it was at 12.5:1 truly then it would have melted on the first pass.
1st pass it went 9.8 @ 135 ... we took 6lbs. of fuel pressure out (because our tuner wasnt at the track, he was up his girls *** until she wanted to come the 2nd day.)
2nd pass with 6psi out it went 9.3@145 (dont think it was lean do you?)
3rd pass took out another 2psi fuel ... 9.2@147 (must be really lean now)
4th pass took out another 1 psi fuel .... 9.1@148.... thanks for your help
You are? when is the last time you came over to help? 2years ago?
Hurry up and get this junk out of here, I need to get to Ashleys is all we heard.
We helped you build the shop and install said dyno so a few hours on it I think would be fair.
I never said you were mean (that would be gay) I said your a ***** whipped ***.
We tried telling you but you think it was a joke or a "smartass comment".
Why is your customer calling me crying about you?
You dont answer the phone, you dont return calls and after you dropped his car off the lift you didnt even have the decency to call him and tell him, you send him an Email? WTF ?
Now the same customer wants us to finish the car because you have had his $10,000 for over a year with NO results.
That guy would have beat your *** if we were not there. Ya you fixed it but it took you 6 months. 6 months of him paying for his Vette that he could not drive because your shop cant install a cam.
I got nothing better to do at work then to **** on you all day buddy.
Contary to what this guy says now, I know 4-5 years ago I was working on cars and choppers for the military and he was delivering pizza's.
So next time you get on delivered be sure to tip him well, he may be the next "super tuner"[/QUOT
I be DAMN
he just took a serious **** on him
LMAO
Dont get it twisted
English please!
Let me explain how it works. Your SO smart you should already know this.
It was more than a little rich if it lifts the ring lands.
After it lifts the ring land oil gets in the cyl. and **** the flame up and it melts stuff. (plug tips first). So you might think it was lean or it had to much timing but if it lifted the ring land it was TO rich and thats what hurt it.
Dont get it twisted
We could not get you to help us at the LSX race so him Saying"we got it under control" is his way of saying *** you we got it.
Here is some more info for you.
You can not tune a 3-400 shot with 1 wide band.
if it was at 12.5:1 truly then it would have melted on the first pass.
1st pass it went 9.8 @ 135 ... we took 6lbs. of fuel pressure out (because our tuner wasnt at the track, he was up his girls *** until she wanted to come the 2nd day.)
2nd pass with 6psi out it went 9.3@145 (dont think it was lean do you?)
3rd pass took out another 2psi fuel ... 9.2@147 (must be really lean now
)4th pass took out another 1 psi fuel .... 9.1@148.... thanks for your help
You are? when is the last time you came over to help? 2years ago?
Hurry up and get this junk out of here, I need to get to Ashleys is all we heard.
We helped you build the shop and install said dyno so a few hours on it I think would be fair.
I never said you were mean (that would be gay) I said your a ***** whipped ***.
We tried telling you but you think it was a joke or a "smartass comment".
Why is your customer calling me crying about you?
You dont answer the phone, you dont return calls and after you dropped his car off the lift you didnt even have the decency to call him and tell him, you send him an Email? WTF ?
Now the same customer wants us to finish the car because you have had his $10,000 for over a year with NO results.
That guy would have beat your *** if we were not there. Ya you fixed it but it took you 6 months. 6 months of him paying for his Vette that he could not drive because your shop cant install a cam.
I got nothing better to do at work then to **** on you all day buddy.
Contary to what this guy says now, I know 4-5 years ago I was working on cars and choppers for the military and he was delivering pizza's.
So next time you get on delivered be sure to tip him well, he may be the next "super tuner"
[/QUOTI be DAMN
he just took a serious **** on him LMAO 
Trouble in Paradise(Glen Burnie)?
Gotdamn Wayne..... now THAT was some ALL pro DEEP chit you just dumped!
You won't need to hit duh ******* for a week-
Choppin...... you get points drivin' the last nail.
**** should be a sticky on severe ownage-
Gotdamn Wayne..... now THAT was some ALL pro DEEP chit you just dumped!
You won't need to hit duh ******* for a week-
Choppin...... you get points drivin' the last nail.
**** should be a sticky on severe ownage-
GrannySShifting, ATVracr, ShiznityZ28, and choppin-suey - There is obvious **** going on between you guys in GB. How about keeping it there and out of people's threads? This is at least the 3rd thread where I've read childlike bickering between you guys. AFR vs Trickflow or AFR vs ETP, Granny vs GBR. 
Take it to PM's. Hopefully the mods will clean up the thread with my comments included because this **** sure is 
Take it to PM's. Hopefully the mods will clean up the thread with my comments included because this **** sure is GrannySShifting, ATVracr, ShiznityZ28, and choppin-suey - There is obvious **** going on between you guys in GB. How about keeping it there and out of people's threads? This is at least the 3rd thread where I've read childlike bickering between you guys. AFR vs Trickflow or AFR vs ETP, Granny vs GBR. Take it to PM's. Hopefully the mods will clean up the thread with my comments included because this **** sure is
Take it to PM's. Hopefully the mods will clean up the thread with my comments included because this **** sure is You really added something to the thread, way to get it back on topic.
Back on topic.... Sounds to me like a tuning issues not a cam issue.
Stock motors should make better than 80hp on a 150 shot.
I didnt say his was stock I said a stock motor should make more that 80 hp on a 150 shot.
So the 150 shots you have dynoed only make 43 ft lbs. of torque?(thats what his made 80 hp and 43 ft lbs.)
My 150 dry shot made 125hp and 200 ft lbs. thru a th400 and 12bolt.
Like I said something is off, probably the tune up.
Shes the one in the 2007 pump gas mag. nice girl and good looking but not loose all your buddies good!
It was not ash's fault at all she told him plenty of times to go with us. This is on Jeff noone else! Its always better to stick around with a bunch of people, because even if your dead wrong, it could sound right if it comes from a couple people
Ha ha severe ownage thats it. I just dont get off sitting on the internet trying to make myself look cooler to other men in a circle jerk. They keep a herding mentality, if you dont think what the herd thinks, guess you not part of the herd... like anyone with a spine cares. Perfect example one of the guys offered one of the herd rockers for free so he didnt have to find a set to buy. Rocker needer brings up this crap again (apprently needs to convince himself by repitition) and because guy offereing actually sees both sides and must have said something that doesnt sit well in his stomach - they chose to post back up they still need a set to buy. LOL
ANother example: These three pairs of clownshoes spent years shitting up every thread about a local shop they all had bad dealings with (as in paid to put motors in they did themselves, paid for tunes for cars that I eventually had to learn how to do and did myself, had to pay out of pocket for motors after installs gone wrong - little different than me not "going with") Whats funny now is, they are taking those guys out to dinner, hanging out with them and are "boys" all the sudden. Flip flop much or just need new friends, or just need?
I mean sure I chose to spend alot of time with my girl, Shiz has large ***** and all but just not my style
I was 18 delivering pizza and figuring out what no one around at the time was, ATVracr is 30 something and does gutter helmet. Much more prestigeous position I guess. Who cares?
See I can the same type of comments but it doesnt add anything of substance anywhere. Id be just another fool trying to make a mute point in some guys thread. Anyone can come up with witty remarks, not to many spines round here I guess I quit playing follow the leader in grade school. Maybe time for some of you all to graduate?
Yup, it is on me. Im trying to run a business by my self and cant/dont choose to be at everyones side at drop of a hat or even do all that I want to. I actually need to have a break from cars every now and then, cars dont make me its the other way round. I dont have any desire to help grown men crying that i dont "go with us" like girls. If I gotta deal with girls I might as well deal with a real one. Hell I did put my girl in front of a paying customer (wrong on my part for sure) and even he sees through this BS. Ive also put you guys in front of paying customers many many times. And Ive needed to get back to the job of doing business because in the past Ive been more concerned with helping all of you out (whether or not you choose to believe it) than profit. Ive had some employees put me behind on some stuff and Ive been spending much time getting things right. Bottom line my "boys" would respect that. People looking out for their own interest apparently dont however, and I dont need that.
Look - Shiz said he had everything under control and didnt want my help. After that his blew up, Waynes blew up. Now thats all my fault somehow lol. And somehow in other posts when it suits ya I didnt contribute at all for stuff a year or two years prior. Sounds funny take credit for what you want and try and make it sound like I left ya hanging for what you dont want. Dont have any desire to help any ungrateful people. And dont give me how weve all done **** for each other, we have, and a real man would be able to say thanks and thanks back and let it be done with. I can say thanks for your help and be done... can you?
NOZR1 is right NONE f this belongs here, mods shoudl lock it liek Ive said before. Right it down in your diaries and sleep better and call it a day.
Ha ha severe ownage thats it. I just dont get off sitting on the internet trying to make myself look cooler to other men in a circle jerk. They keep a herding mentality, if you dont think what the herd thinks, guess you not part of the herd... like anyone with a spine cares. Perfect example one of the guys offered one of the herd rockers for free so he didnt have to find a set to buy. Rocker needer brings up this crap again (apprently needs to convince himself by repitition) and because guy offereing actually sees both sides and must have said something that doesnt sit well in his stomach - they chose to post back up they still need a set to buy. LOL
ANother example: These three pairs of clownshoes spent years shitting up every thread about a local shop they all had bad dealings with (as in paid to put motors in they did themselves, paid for tunes for cars that I eventually had to learn how to do and did myself, had to pay out of pocket for motors after installs gone wrong - little different than me not "going with") Whats funny now is, they are taking those guys out to dinner, hanging out with them and are "boys" all the sudden. Flip flop much or just need new friends, or just need?
I mean sure I chose to spend alot of time with my girl, Shiz has large ***** and all but just not my style
I was 18 delivering pizza and figuring out what no one around at the time was, ATVracr is 30 something and does gutter helmet. Much more prestigeous position I guess. Who cares?
See I can the same type of comments but it doesnt add anything of substance anywhere. Id be just another fool trying to make a mute point in some guys thread. Anyone can come up with witty remarks, not to many spines round here I guess
I quit playing follow the leader in grade school. Maybe time for some of you all to graduate?Look - Shiz said he had everything under control and didnt want my help. After that his blew up, Waynes blew up. Now thats all my fault somehow lol. And somehow in other posts when it suits ya I didnt contribute at all for stuff a year or two years prior. Sounds funny take credit for what you want and try and make it sound like I left ya hanging for what you dont want. Dont have any desire to help any ungrateful people. And dont give me how weve all done **** for each other, we have, and a real man would be able to say thanks and thanks back and let it be done with. I can say thanks for your help and be done... can you?
NOZR1 is right NONE f this belongs here, mods shoudl lock it liek Ive said before. Right it down in your diaries and sleep better and call it a day.
Last edited by GrannySShifting; Apr 6, 2008 at 06:45 PM.