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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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Well i got my dual stage kit awhile back but am just starting to put it on. Im having problems finding exactly what wires go were off the relay, so this is how i have it now.

87 power wires from solenoids
86 toggle
85 wot
30 12 volt 30 amp fuse

Im not sure if its right or not but after being all wired up with power on the solenoids are not hitting?
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Old Apr 13, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Check my web site out, we have some great diagrams that show the proper numbers to use on your relays.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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Here you go. Ill help..


As you can see. I make 85 ground or feed from windowswitch ground.

I use the wot switch on the pin 86.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 01:16 AM
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Here is mine

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:17 AM
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Since I temporaraly can't show my web site, here is what my guy is doing for what ever I spec: (Beers drawing along with others are there also).


and a full size for better viewing
C5 Wiring Diagram
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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Robert, 2 quick questions. (Didn't want to start a new thread.)

1. On these 2 stages,are you guys running tw0 bottles or a splitting the feedline to two solenoids?
2. A little off topic but any preferance as far as nozzle or halo rings in cold air intakes (I'm running the New Era CAI on my swap.) fro dry hits?

BTW, nice diagrams.
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Originally Posted by TPI TERROR
Robert, 2 quick questions. (Didn't want to start a new thread.)

1. On these 2 stages,are you guys running tw0 bottles or a splitting the feedline to two solenoids?
2. A little off topic but any preferance as far as nozzle or halo rings in cold air intakes (I'm running the New Era CAI on my swap.) fro dry hits?

BTW, nice diagrams.
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My Two Stage is one -4 AN Main Line to two Nitrous Noids. The Lightning noids have a pass through so they are connected by a 1/8" NPT Nipple

Here is an early mock up


More recent photo


Have changed the bottom Discharge to straight fittings, instead of 90° As well the fittings/Hoses are all Black now.

I think most will agree that a nozzle spraying right at the MAF with a nozzle works best for getting the MAF frequency up to get the PCM to command more fuel (without use of Tuning or an interface). A halo system works and possably distributes better, but it is not as concentrated as a nozzle pointed at the MAF wires.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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Running the product that Beer mentioned really nulls the nozzle location. Hell, the Dry plate is the bomb these days with said product above, check it out.
One thing to mention doing the back to back noid set-up like BEER shows, the 5177 running this way is limited to about 135rwhp shot due to orifice size and redundant restriction, breaking noids up will allow each noid to flow about 175rwhp, so you can see what a cumulative restrictions can do. Now the noids Beer runs do have bigger orifices but still will max out sooner than if they had separate supplies. Here is how I run my system, two lines in and one out, a 4an can support a 400 shot with no restrictions, picture below.
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